Kat and Moose Podcast

Tree Shrew Poo and a Superposition

Ever feel like your life's undergoing a metamorphosis? We get it. That's why we're inviting you to flutter along with us on a new journey, one that's captured our transformation into a spectacular video podcast. We're spreading our wings, and we want you to be part of this elevated flight, where we examine the innate instincts that guide us and the collective energy that propels us forward. It's not just about change; it's about the exhilaration of discovering our full potential and the unity we feel when we come together in joy and purpose.

Our latest conversation takes a heartfelt turn as we share moments that have shaped us, like the dedication of a song from the amazing Matt Maher that brought home the value of personal connections. We celebrate the quirks that set us apart, diving into the world of left-handers and the beauty of embracing our individuality—Sara's supposed autism included. It's about cherishing those unique traits that make our interactions rich and life all the more colorful. So, join us as we toast to the peculiarities that make us who we are.

Then, buckle up as we navigate from the music industry to the wild relationships in Borneo's rainforests and the perplexing appearances of monoliths worldwide. We discuss how nature's odd couples and these enigmatic structures stir our curiosity and wonder. Add to that a foray into the realms of quantum physics and spirituality with Dr. Diana Pasolka, and you're in for an episode that not only tickles the brain but touches the soul. We're here to celebrate the courage to express ourselves, and we share stories of overcoming the paralysis of judgment, finding freedom in authenticity. Tune in, and let's explore this fascinating tapestry of life together.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the cat and moose podcast.

Speaker 2:

I'm Kat and I'm Moose, this is a true life podcaster. We explore the quirks of being human.

Speaker 3:

But be dee beep but hey, but a pop up.

Speaker 1:

Hey everyone, You're everybody. Oh my gosh, it's like they went from like super pro to like mega pro. Like we. We have totally leveled up a notch in at your request. Moose, you asked that I offer a prayer for this thing that we're getting into today. Yes please, All right Now. Who am I praying to or with? Or us?

Speaker 2:

You're praying with us, as long as I'm not praying to you? No, I don't get weird. We have a Buddha here. We also have a Bible for Jesus, uh-huh.

Speaker 3:

You're also wearing a Shag Nasty shirt. Yes, you could be praying.

Speaker 2:

Yes, To to all my grandma Davis, yeah absolutely OK. I just need to know what you like to welcome into the room.

Speaker 1:

I would like to welcome all of our listeners into the room.

Speaker 1:

I would like to welcome you, producer Sarah, thank you, and you, moose, and you, kat, this beautiful, and myself, kat, and this beautiful creature, frankie, who's in here with us and I would just like to also welcome in the divine. I would like to welcome in all that is good and light and I invite any of our listeners who are listening to welcome anyone who brings light and love and comfort to them Into their space and listeners. We would love for you to Join us in our space and our space has cars in the background and the heat is on and the fan is on and all is good. We're right in advance of the spring solstice. By the time you're hearing, this spring will have sprung and I just wanted to ask all of you and God, father, son, holy Spirit, mother, Mother, durga, buddha Shagnesty.

Speaker 1:

Shagnesty, the mean grandmas and the nice grandmas, yes, yes, I would like to invite all of you to show your presence as you wish and ask that, if there are any good vibes in any one wishes that you would be willing to send our way for our first ever podcast that is on video and we are back in the room together.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, we would love to just suck up all those good vibes, and we would like to be like a mirror and shine them right back on you in even greater glory than before. So thank you for being with us and welcome to episode one ninety eight of the Cat and Moose podcast, where we have completely leveled up.

Speaker 3:

Oh, hell, yes, we have transformed. We keep talking about these butterflies and their cancun's cocoon, their cocoon cocoon those butterflies were, they went to cancun.

Speaker 2:

You said cancun's and I was so confused. Those cancun's butterfly. What did you think she said?

Speaker 1:

I thought it was a word, that is. It's not a really not an OK word.

Speaker 3:

Cancun's.

Speaker 4:

That's what I said, oh yeah, oh, you did and I didn't mean to Wow yeah, cancun, cocoon's from Cancun.

Speaker 2:

So the cancun butterflies were basically. What we're getting at being a science podcast is that we're, we're starting to fly and we're, we're, we're at the face, yes, we're flying.

Speaker 1:

We are flying Not yet we're getting ready.

Speaker 3:

Yes, where are we?

Speaker 2:

I mean, we might be guys. All right, sorry, we're at the phase where what is it before the butterfly? What is that thing called? Metamorphosis a caterpillar Metamorphosis. Yeah, yeah, I was talking about the animal.

Speaker 3:

The Christians talk about it all the time in our 20s.

Speaker 1:

Simplified what the three of us bring to the podcast, because we each had a different word for the same thing A green yeah.

Speaker 2:

But the caterpillar, that is what I was looking for. Yes, um, you know, I'm guessing, when it starts melting before it turns into the butterfly, that it's having panic attacks and like, oh, I'm dying.

Speaker 3:

Like I'm dying Flashes yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's what we've been through the past year.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And now we're at the phase where we're like, oh shit, I've got wings. What do I do with this?

Speaker 1:

That's where we are. Oh, that feels so good in my body, isn't?

Speaker 3:

that great Like that I literally, like, could feel myself, like, yeah, yeah, like we're going to practice like those birds that just stand with their wings open and they're like come on, come up, come at me. Yes, so we're practicing flying today. Yes, welcome to Flight. Lesson number one Flying lessons?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think I would when I'm curious about and I think I have an answer for this, but I'm curious, like who is the flight instructor? Do we like know how to fly? I mean, we just got these wings so we don't know any. I think it's in us Like birds.

Speaker 2:

don't know, it's like the divine inside of us Like, yeah, intuition or instinctual.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree with that. Ok, cool, I'm into it.

Speaker 3:

Ah, it's so fun, I see Into it, oh, into it.

Speaker 2:

Chun. Yes, it's so fun to record in the same room together. It really is like looking in your eye.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm serious. Can I be serious? I know it's uncomfortable 12 different tripods you could always see. And then, if I take my glasses off, there's 24. Oh, God help us. Yeah, it is really nice to be doing this, this really fun thing that we've been doing together now for years.

Speaker 3:

Yes years.

Speaker 1:

Hey, moose, hey Kat, hey Sarah, hi, hi, it's really nice to be doing this thing that we've been doing for years together, back in person again. And and we're doing it not just because, like, oh, hey, girl, hey, like we want to be in person, but Moose and Sarah have both just really said, hey, we're going to level this thing up, and we have got mics and we've got cameras, and we've got Cameras cameras cameras, yeah, and then cameras from Cancun, and I just want to say how lovely it is, moose, to actually look you in the eyes.

Speaker 2:

It's still. I only laugh. I agree, I agree, but there is, I don't know why my light is right down your face.

Speaker 3:

There's some things. Some things, there's some adjustments. We're learning how to fly.

Speaker 2:

We're learning oh, that's better.

Speaker 3:

But we're not. There's no my yeah, but then Sarah's.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, we have your mic.

Speaker 3:

Get back on your mic, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Sarah, I would like to look at your eyeballs. Hi, it is really nice to see you in person. It's so good to see you in person.

Speaker 3:

Thank you Especially.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is. This is really lovely and I love like, like, what I'm seeing right now is all this cool shit going on on Sarah's screen. That's all of our like voice waves and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want to see. Here's what it looks like. Show oh, you're going to show.

Speaker 3:

Voice waves, voice waves, voice waves.

Speaker 2:

We also have here are voice waves for you, Moose. Oh, thank you, oh wow.

Speaker 3:

We're high tech. We're high tech, we just. We also have the windows open.

Speaker 2:

So Sarah's upset about the windows being open. I'm so happy about the windows being open. Basically, these lights that we're trying out are frying our skin right now. So we needed to cool off a little. But people are walking by like, oh, that must be an award winning podcast. You know that's what they're thinking it is. If you guys need autographs, let us know. Well, the silence is definitely OK.

Speaker 1:

So, talking about autographs, we all work in the music industry and so we grew up and had lots of different experiences with experiencing live music and meeting famous people and becoming famous people and like all kinds of stuff, and so, at least for me, I've gotten a little bit desensitized to like the special, like the oh my gosh, it's really special to have someone's autograph who you admire, and if they look you in the eye before they sign your autograph, like I see you, like that means everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I remember when I met Sarah McLaughlin for the first time and she just really like she was there with me at least made me feel that way, you know. And working with clients who get to interact with fans like that all the time is really fun and, like I said, can sometimes kind of desensitize, like oh, like what our actual clients do and who they are is really, really special.

Speaker 1:

And so you remember from a couple of episodes ago, I went to St Louis with one of our clients and I forgot to mention one thing about that trip, and it is our dear friend that we've all known for years, mike, who gave me the Diet Coke. Oh yeah, he saved my life. Well, yeah, diet Cokes do sometimes. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And so, mike, I want your autograph, and I just wanted to say thank you for the Diet Coke and I wanted you guys to get to experience with me a moment that made me feel really special. And our jobs, all of our jobs everybody listening each one of us in this conversation our jobs are really important and our jobs are also, like, not as important as the next job or whatever, and I think a lot of our jobs oftentimes feel thankless.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know and it's not that my clients don't thank me, it's not that you guys or our constituents don't thank me, but sometimes it just feels, sometimes it just feels like, oh man, this feels kind of like a thankless job, and I had this very unexpected moment in St Louis where our client closed out his show with my favorite song. I don't know if it's my very favorite, but it's one of my favorite songs he's ever written and gave me a little shout out, and so I just wanted to share it with you.

Speaker 2:

I love it. I remember you mentioning this, but I want to hear what he said.

Speaker 6:

I want to dedicate the song. My manager, kat Davis, is here. She normally never gets to travel with me because she's too busy doing the podcast. She came all the way and has just been hanging out all day at the radio station with me, with everyone, and back at the merch table. So can you give a cat a round of applause?

Speaker 1:

So sweet.

Speaker 6:

We've been working together for almost 20 years. So that's crazy, it's not? And yeah, this is this for her.

Speaker 3:

So sweet, isn't that the title.

Speaker 2:

It is so sweet.

Speaker 3:

I mean, how does that feel?

Speaker 1:

Oh, like my whole chest is just like I've been. I've been taught that when cats purr the some of the cells in their chest like they swell and they bump against each other, and that's what makes the purr. That's cool sound and I feel like that in my chest.

Speaker 3:

I feel like that's very appropriate for your name even.

Speaker 1:

Oh, all the media purr, yeah, maybe purr.

Speaker 5:

That's sweet.

Speaker 2:

It's really sweet, really sweet.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for sharing it with me.

Speaker 2:

I can't believe you guys have been working together almost 20 years. It's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I remember the day you came home and said you were going to work with him and I was like who's that? And you're like he's going to be somebody I'm going to show you know. Like you were like ready to build it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you did. You guys built it together.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's been a really a really fun adventure, and if you don't know her artist, it's Richard Marks, in case you're wondering. I don't know, I don't know. I figured you heard that.

Speaker 1:

No, it is not. It's not Richard Marks. His name is Matt Maher and he is one of the greatest artists and songwriters of all time. In my opinion, he's pretty amazing. Yeah, thank you for sharing that with me. Now it's Women's History Month.

Speaker 3:

Wait, no, Wait, you shared that with us and we shared with you.

Speaker 2:

No, she was saying, we shared the moment, we were sharing the moment.

Speaker 1:

OK, I got it.

Speaker 2:

Sarah's like wait by the way. I mean no disrespect by the statement, but today Sarah looked at me and she goes I'm autistic.

Speaker 3:

I am.

Speaker 2:

And I said to her I love your autism. Yes as do I.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. I know many people with varying degrees of autism and like the more the better.

Speaker 2:

I agree, I love it. I love it, I completely agree.

Speaker 3:

I love your quirks. Thank you, I'm full of them.

Speaker 2:

OK, wait, I want to say something. We're on the honoring cat train.

Speaker 1:

Oh it's been a little long, so let's.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know, but Sarah, would you be willing to show cat the video that I found that? You being a left handed lefty, oh, I thought you would appreciate this. There's a store for lefties.

Speaker 3:

Oh God, it's OK, go ahead, say it again. There's a store for.

Speaker 2:

There's a store for. There's a store for lefties.

Speaker 3:

That's all.

Speaker 2:

Are you?

Speaker 3:

going to play it. Yeah, I just thought you were going to set it up.

Speaker 1:

That was the stuff.

Speaker 3:

We watched the video and then we responded I was going to try and share my Zoom. We're not on Zoom you ready, so hey, all habits die hard.

Speaker 1:

One day at a time, one degree of change at a time, you sure. You, sure, you, sure, you, sure you sure, you sure, you sure, you sure I'm measuring tape for left handed people. Oh my, God.

Speaker 7:

The difference is the clip is on this side For left handed people it's on this side, oh, okay. I mean usually the mugs would be, able to get around with the image Yep.

Speaker 1:

Yep, this is not my experience, so you get to hold it up, god. What's that like? Oh, okay, hold it on.

Speaker 2:

Hold it on, okay See, it's so confusing because all I know is right handed boys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too, dude I'm going to do it. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3:

It's a can opener. Oh, there it is.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the difference is with this one. Oh, the portfolio. The pad is on the the left. For the love of God. That's good, yes, you just did it helpful the other day. I need to get when is this place. It was a laser.

Speaker 3:

It was in San Francisco. In San Francisco, of course, it is A measuring cup for left handers.

Speaker 2:

I guess it's just the image, but I don't understand that. Could you just turn?

Speaker 1:

around. You can but like the measuring cup that I have like on the side. If I'm holding it with my right hand it's got all the like the cup and all this, and if I'm holding it with my left hand it's like kilograms and milligrams and stuff like that, which, being an American, I don't have as similar knowledge to you.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to watch it anymore. So then I went down a hole of like are there lefty stores other places? Yeah, Amazon has a lefty store. What?

Speaker 1:

Yes, oh, wow, that's cool, my goodness.

Speaker 2:

So for other fellow lefties, there you go. That is very exciting.

Speaker 1:

It is exciting, that is very exciting, thank you. I want to share something.

Speaker 3:

Oh, wait Do you have more to share about the lefties.

Speaker 2:

No, I have other things to share, but it's your turn.

Speaker 3:

Okay, share and tell, share and tell and show and tell Okay.

Speaker 2:

What would you like to share with us Well?

Speaker 3:

we don't have to watch this whole video, but I do think it's pretty cool. This is about a tree shrew, and it's the only animal that has its own toilet in the wild.

Speaker 7:

What? Every morning, the tree shrew's first activity is using the toilet. It's the only animal that has its own toilet. It poops into the mouth of a pitcher plant. This plant doesn't get angry. Instead, it provides the shrew a snack. Every morning, the pitcher plant opens the toilet lid to greet the little tree shrew. As to the little tree shrew, the first thing it does when it wakes up is look for the pitcher plant. The reason for their close relationship is because they have a special partnership. The lids of the pitcher plant's toilet secrete a sweet nectar every day, which happens to be the tree shrew's favorite dessert and its primary source of sustenance. When the tree shrew has licked all the toilet lids clean, it also leaves a carefully prepared gift for the pitcher plant. Although this gift may seem a bit peculiar, it's the pitcher plant's favorite food. In the continuous rain of Borneo's tropical rainforest, the gift left by the tree shrew is washed into the pitcher plant's stomach by rainwater. With nitrates from the feces, the pitcher plant can survive.

Speaker 3:

That's all.

Speaker 1:

I mean like wow, nature is so fascinating.

Speaker 2:

It really is. What's even more fascinating is that happened for probably millions of years and yet this guy thought why has no one made a video about it? Exactly Like he was a biologist that went. Someone needs to know that this thing poops in a plant.

Speaker 3:

I mean, what a discovery too. You're like what is that? Oh, did you hear my chair?

Speaker 1:

No it sounded like you, it sounded like a tree shrew Whoops, I really I love that you brought that, sarah. It really reminds me how, like that whole idea of like, for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. The whole idea of like the balance of nature, and it's like what a, what a beautiful way to showcase that, by this animal shitting in a flower, the flower makes food for it. That likes.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's being in the river. That is being in the river. What did our friends call?

Speaker 3:

it the other day. It was a some sort of I didn't know.

Speaker 2:

We had a transaction.

Speaker 3:

It was a I can't remember, nevermind Transaction. It's not a transaction. It's like a when you're having a conversation or when you're interacting with people there's a given, a take but they had a cool phrase for it. Yeah, it was like it was similar, oh, it was very similar to guys.

Speaker 2:

We will report back, Guys new friends.

Speaker 1:

You know that they're screaming at their windshields right now.

Speaker 2:

It's like a student, it's like a teacher counseling thing that they say when it's actually given to take, it's called blank and periodic relationship.

Speaker 3:

Anyway, what were we?

Speaker 2:

talking about? Well, I want to talk about monoliths, do you remember? Oh, back in 2020 when we were doing monoliths. Oh, that was in 2020. It feels like it was. Maybe it was sooner. Well, there's a new one back. Okay, sarah, can you read that Cause? Lord knows, I can't.

Speaker 3:

Okay, it says mystery seal monolith appears in Wales when Craig Muir left his house in Hay on Y in Powys, wales.

Speaker 1:

She just, she just have a stroke.

Speaker 3:

Like what just happened. Hay on Y, what's that? That's the word of, that's what it says. How do you spell it? H-a-y, dash O-N, dash, w-y-e Wow.

Speaker 1:

It literally sounded like she was speaking another language.

Speaker 2:

I thought you literally switched in like two, like Norwegian, okay.

Speaker 3:

In Hay on Y and Powys, wales, on March 12th to take it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so in Wales we are in the UK.

Speaker 3:

We're in the UK, guys, we're in the UK. I'm not. I'm not I'm not, she's the animal I was picturing. Am I Jonah? I don't know? Okay, so these. This guy was taking his usual walk. He noticed something strange. At first he thought it might be something scientific. Sorry, at the first. At first he thought you even got this.

Speaker 2:

Are we recording yeah?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we are Okay Ready. At first he thought it might be some scientific device to collect rainwater, but upon closer inspection, I bless it.

Speaker 2:

I bet the next word's inspection.

Speaker 3:

Upon closer inspection, he realized it was anything but that. The 10 foot tall steel monolith looked like it had been dropped out from dropped down from space Mirror, said he added. If you didn't know anything, if you didn't know anything to look at it, you could have easily thought it had been dropped off by a UFO or something. Of course it was.

Speaker 3:

Mirror said that there is no way to drive to the location of the monolith and surmise that it may have been transported via helicopter. There were no obvious tracks around it and one could think that something I'm sorry like that would cause a lot of a mess. He added I'm almost done. This monolith in Wales is the latest to appear, with several similar ones having popped up across the globe in the late, in late 2020. The unique metal structures were placed in Utah, california, romania and Turkey with seemingly no explanation.

Speaker 3:

Do you want to see the video or do you? Want to ask your question. I'll see the video.

Speaker 1:

I'm still responding from you setting a boundary with me, wow. Are you doing? Okay, I'm doing all right.

Speaker 3:

Okay, good, thank you, we're watching the video. I'm sorry for. Okay, here we go. It's a baffling story out of Wales.

Speaker 4:

A mysterious steel monolith has appeared seemingly out of nowhere, leaving locals scratching their heads. The towering structure, nearly the size of a semi truck, was discovered by a witness who stumbled upon it while out on a hill in high on Y. He described it as bizarre and definitely stainless steel. Another witness said he and his family took it for a USO.

Speaker 3:

Are you glad we watched the video?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like 13 angles of the same Stupid yeah good, this is like.

Speaker 1:

this is how I feel right now Okay. I'm sure what you're looking for is how.

Speaker 3:

I feel, of course, that's why we're here.

Speaker 1:

Someone has gone to Home Depot and has bought three sheets of sheet metal.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And gone hiking out in Wales and stuck that shit in the ground.

Speaker 2:

That looks a little bit nicer than some sheet metal, and they're saying that it's dropped off by UFO.

Speaker 1:

Like why do we? Why does anybody believe this?

Speaker 2:

Well, I wouldn't have brought it to the show if I didn't. Oh gosh, I believe it. You think it came from out? No, I think it came from a helicopter. But oh what. Just to just cause, do you even know what a monolith is? Did they debunk it? Like what the hell? Is it a piece of metal? Like it's a monument, that is a list.

Speaker 1:

I view it to me. I view it as a statue. It's like a, it's like a, but what's the point? Well, that's what I'm asking.

Speaker 3:

Monolith is a large, single, upright block of stone, especially one shaped into or serving as a pillar or monument.

Speaker 2:

Of what? What are the? Any kind of monument so like?

Speaker 3:

like the, like this, this face guy oh, that's a lot of life. Like it's a rock, that looks like a face, that's a monolith. I know the answer to the question.

Speaker 1:

Cat knows I know the answer to the question. The answer to the question is is where did it come from? Go back to that Instagram article and just start at the beginning.

Speaker 2:

Really, we have lost all of our listeners dropped off by a UFO.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no. At the very, very beginning, mystery steel monolith appears in Wales. And then that next line, when Greg Muir left his house in hay on Y in Powys, wales, on March 12th to take his usual.

Speaker 1:

I swear it came. That's a hey I was funny. It is funny.

Speaker 2:

It is funny because we thought she had a stroke, yeah, well. Well, that's all, guys. I just wanted to share that. Okay, I feel like did I hurt?

Speaker 1:

No, not at all.

Speaker 2:

But are you okay with her setting?

Speaker 1:

a boundary. Yeah, yeah, I'm still a little tingly, but it's. It happens to me what happened?

Speaker 3:

Did I point my finger at you?

Speaker 1:

No, when I did this. It was a little bit like a hang on. I'm almost done. Oh yeah, I am so interested in what happens in my body when people set boundaries. It is really.

Speaker 3:

Do you feel hungry? Do you want to share about it? Wait Hunger.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes emotion can cause pangs of hunger. That's true, I believe it.

Speaker 1:

I'm an emotional eater, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I wasn't saying you are. I'm just curious how about I keep it more open-ended? How do you feel?

Speaker 3:

What does?

Speaker 2:

it do in your body. Maybe I will guess your feelings.

Speaker 3:

Kat, do you want to talk?

Speaker 1:

No, I think it's.

Speaker 5:

I think it's funny, or may not talk.

Speaker 1:

It's not true at all.

Speaker 5:

It's amazing.

Speaker 1:

So I would like to go back, if you're willing. Like I would like to go back to um in that moment when I was like this is bullshit, this is a bunch of shit from home depot or whatever. I'm like who believes this? And you're like I do what? What about it? Do you believe? Like, when you say you believe it, like what about the whole phenomenon? Do you believe?

Speaker 2:

First of all, I think it's very odd. Yes, like my guess is, it's like art students dropping off shit, you know. But I don't know, I don't know. I think it's interesting that people would choose to do it, even if it's not a. I don't think it's a UFO necessarily, but I do think UFOs are real, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, have you like dug into any of the Dr Pasolka stuff that I've mentioned as of late? I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't not a clue, sorry, Did we talk about it? Did you send us something that we didn't open?

Speaker 2:

I think our listeners are truth tellers. Have we talked about Dr Pasolka?

Speaker 3:

Sosaka, sosaka, sosaka.

Speaker 2:

Sosavaka yeah. Tell us about it. Her name is. Dr. Of course it's a she.

Speaker 1:

She's amazing. Her name is Dr Diana Pasolka and she is a professor in North Carolina.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And she has written a couple of books and they address some of these monoliths, yeah, but more broadly, like you know, kind of quantum physics meets other UFOs, meet spirituality, and you know, kind of faith lens through which, like it's just really really interesting reading. I mean, I've been listening, of course, because I don't read, but right. I just think that you would find her material really cool.

Speaker 2:

I will look her up. Sosaki the spelling, that'd be great.

Speaker 1:

Kawasaki Kawasaki.

Speaker 2:

I am interested in quantum physics. I had this moment with my therapist this week where I was telling her that there are a few things in my life where I have had intense emotions around things because I knew later in life I would experience something hard but I knew what it was really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I will go into the specifics. But as an example, if I knew I say that I knew I was going to have a car wreck like I was triggered before anything ever happened is what I'm getting at, Anyway, and I was telling my therapist, I was like I think that's where quantum physics comes into play, is like, if you really do believe that our souls are like in different places at different times and it's not all just linear, then it makes sense that my soul would already know that this pain is coming.

Speaker 2:

One of them was when I was like 12 years old. I think I've told the story before, but I had my first panic attack because my mom was turning 50 and I thought that was really old. And after I've processed so much grief with her passing, I think that that 12 year old me knew even then oh, life is going to be really hard without her around, even though it was many years later that she did pass. But is that quantum physics or is that just our soul being all knowing.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I think first of all. I don't think any of us can know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think the answer is yes. I think that it's yes. And and there's this new thing that I saw called Wondrium. Have you heard of this thing? It's like a channel you can subscribe to, like on your Apple TV or whatever, and it's all these collections of like dissertations, teachings, classes about all kinds of subjects like where did the human language be? And then it just began like quantum physics. So I'm in the middle of watching the quantum physics.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

That's, and it's taught by this professor I think she's up in Boston and it's just fascinating. And one of the things that I really enjoyed was she was talking about dual wave something or other part, dual wave particles. Anyway, what they did is they showed a can like a soda can and they had a light that shown on the can, like from above the can, and so below the can it looked like a square on the wall.

Speaker 1:

They shown a light from beside the can and what showed up on the wall was a circle. That's weird, but it's the same object. Yeah, that's a good explanation of kind of how quantum physics works.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and it's like I still don't understand what it's this and that they're both Something

Speaker 1:

that is that is a thing, can also behave like another thing and can also behave like another thing, but then it is still the thing. Right you know, and so. I mean, I just think it's fascinating.

Speaker 2:

It is fascinating.

Speaker 3:

What if you were a quantum physicist in another life, or just a physicist, I mean?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, yeah, I mean if you're going to be a physicist, but you didn't say that word. If you're going to be a physicist, you might as well be a quantum one, you might as well be a quantum one.

Speaker 3:

What does quantum mean? Did you watch the show Quantum?

Speaker 2:

Leap, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

You didn't.

Speaker 2:

You didn't In the 80s. And then it's back, oh yeah, with new people now. I haven't watched it.

Speaker 1:

I haven't watched it either. I never watched it. You would have loved it. I probably would have. You should watch it. Maybe I'll watch the reruns. Watch the new ones.

Speaker 3:

Sarah, In physics it means a discrete quantity of energy proportional in magnitude to the frequency of the radiation it represents already like three words and I shut down.

Speaker 2:

Can you like ask Siri to make that more clear or something? Ask chat GBT. Yeah, ask chat GBT. Explain quantum to a layman or a lay woman or a lay anyone. The GoPro just shut off.

Speaker 1:

I was like there's an alien, there's an alien, there's an alien.

Speaker 3:

There's an alien you. Quantum physics is a branch of physics that deal with the behavior of very small particles such as atoms and sub Atomic particles like electrons and protons. At its core, quantum physics reveals a bizarre and fascinating world that operates very differently from the familiar rules of classical physics that govern our everyday experiences and don't we want that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, don't.

Speaker 2:

We want a little different for sure, and I I do believe Me one of my I'm gonna start saying life verses, because that's what the Christians say. It's not a verse, that's fine. It's like a poetry verse, okay, but Phrases is eventually, everything connects, oh yeah and that means into some quantum physics. There is like 100%. I believe Very strongly that we are connected to other people, and so it makes sense that I could have Some sort of connection with someone that's completely across the world.

Speaker 1:

Eventually, everything connects, everything connects Okay. So do you know what it's called when, like the sonos speakers, mm-hmm. So in OS you can spell it backwards and forwards. You can even flip it. Oh, wow, and it still says sonos. Hmm, so I'm wondering if eventually everything connects is one of those things. Everything connects eventually, mmm, connects everything eventually? I don't know, it's just kind of neat. I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's like, could it also be? Hmm, a Particle. I just saw that. That's cool. I saw it, you.

Speaker 2:

You, you. So one of the things we do in coaching that is like a visualization for folks when they can't figure out. They feel stuck, which we all do right some degree often. So, cat, I thought it would be fun to see if you would be willing to do this little thing called the ideal day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would love to you. I will do Anything once, especially if you ask me.

Speaker 3:

You know that. That reminds me. My doctor once told me I'll do anything twice. Oh, and that made me go. Oh, just like you guys did. Seriously, comments.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I want you to close your eyes and I want you to think about. You have an entire day where you get to do anything you possibly could want to do. You don't have to work, you don't have to play, there's no rules. You wake up and what is the first thing that you want to do, or choose to do? Probably go pee okay and after you pee, what would you like to do I?

Speaker 1:

Would like to Pet my beautiful dog, belle Belle, and I would like to get some coffee and put some half and half and equal in it and To drink it and not feel like I want a barf. Hmm, like I would love to just really savor the taste of that. And if I would to have, like, really my most bougie day, I would love to have one of those little Things that like frost up the shirt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you get to do that, yeah, and then, after your caught, where are you having your coffee?

Speaker 1:

In my red chair in the living room. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Is the sun up as.

Speaker 1:

Sarah's, and do I get to do you like whatever you get to do whatever you want.

Speaker 2:

I know this is a speed round of this. Oh it is.

Speaker 1:

It's no well, if you're asking me, it's not gonna be a speed round.

Speaker 2:

Normally we could do this over 30 minutes to an hour and we only have two hours, so take your time and.

Speaker 1:

I would have this rotating cast of characters. Oh fun, that would visit with me. Hmm, they're just gonna come and okay, but there's, there's no, there's no like, there's no need for like the pleasantries and and all that, for example, like I would look up and you would be sitting there. What would we do together? Um, you would challenge me about, you would ask me questions, you would do like you're doing now.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, like you would. You would be like, okay, like I've been thinking about the podcast, so what's the next thing? Bubble Blah, and we talk about it a little bit and then it's like I would look down, take another sip and then lift my eyes and there would be my mom. Oh cool. And then it but but it's just brief. It's not like we have this long drawn out like you know, do you want to stay for breakfast?

Speaker 1:

Do you want to? You know, it's just very Um, yeah, just like kind of a rotating cast. I would really enjoy that like just easy, easy.

Speaker 2:

How long would you like for that time to last? Probably about.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'd like for segment one to happen for about 20 minutes, and then I'd like to poop. Oh wow, I would like segment one, to be just like another five minutes, and then I want to move on.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and what do you want to do with your day?

Speaker 1:

um, you get to do anything and no one is dependent upon you yeah, I think that, um, that kind of time like early, like kind of mid-morning ish, I would really love to check in with my client, matt, and I would love to have a conversation. That's very um, you know, let me know what you're thinking, let me know what's going on today. Let's check in on these few items. I need this from you. I need that from you. Love working with you. Like We'll check in later this afternoon.

Speaker 1:

Yeah like I would feel really good. I love my job, I love what I get to do, totally, um, and then I would go brush my teeth and clean up for the day and take a shower, if I needed to like, whatever it is. And then, um, I would spend some time in a little bit of like prayer and meditation in my treatment room. Oh, cool. And um, I would be doing that in advance of a client coming for body work.

Speaker 2:

Oh, fun Cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then the client would come, we would have a lovely session and, um, I would take my notes after the session, because in my ideal day I would actually take notes regularly. Um, probably just lost my license. Don't turn around, guys. Yeah, don't turn me in. Um, so yeah, do you want me to keep going, or is this? Have I kind of answered the?

Speaker 2:

well, I'm just curious. Um, yes, I, I, I would like for you to keep going Um what happens in the evening, in the evening, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, kind of a very similar thing. Kind of a very similar thing to in the morning over coffee. There's like happy hour and there's like there's like again three visitors, very like short, but like easy, lovely um, hang and Um and that would have dinner at home. Yeah, awesome, yeah, I would have dinner at home.

Speaker 2:

So does that ideal day reflect your current life?

Speaker 1:

There elements of it that really do yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's incredible. That's what I saw in your ideal day. He's like a lot of it's like there. That's amazing. Yeah, I think it's incredible. When you do that, that exercise, that, um, you can immediately or I can't in my body. I'm curious, if you did, I feel this oh no, what do I? What should I do? Who does anyone need me? Like I, I feel those tugs. When I'm like actually doing that, I'm like, okay, no, no, ideal day, I'm, I'm all my own.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and I think it's fun that yours included like solitude, but also people.

Speaker 1:

Well, and I, I, I think that like I keep, if I'm being honest with myself, like there has to be a part of me that enjoys being needed. But enjoys being relied upon, and so I I think that that kind of brief, like the, the revolving door interaction, I would like that to feel in real life, really balanced like that. I would like for it to feel like what you need for me is what I have. And what. I need from you is what I have. Yeah and then it's just fine.

Speaker 2:

Can you explain that what you need for me is what I have. What does that mean to you like?

Speaker 1:

like and I'll just use you and me as an example like if you were to just be like transported to sitting on my couch, like If you were like cat. I'm so frustrated about blah, blah, blah blah and you like needed my support, that I would just have the energy for that. Right, I see you know, and that if I needed your support, you would have the energy for that, but it wasn't this like gunga, gunga, gunga. Yeah it's like, it's just like, it's just flow.

Speaker 2:

It's in the river.

Speaker 1:

You know it's like that that to me and I think the only way I know how to in in this conscious mind To articulate that is these like kind of brief Interactions. But I think it's the like well, you know, so-and-so is coming over. I have to clean up. You know, it's just like this afternoon. Like you guys were like you're the only person, you're one of the only people that you know we can have our house a mess and not feel terrible. You know and it's like I just Fuck like right. I want that.

Speaker 2:

It's exhausting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so like Okay, so I, I love everything you shared. Let me say that first, um, before I move on and I'm not necessarily moving on, but I'm gonna say this I had this moment in the car this week where I was thinking about creative endeavors and how, so many times and this may not just be creative endeavors, that's just what I was thinking about but so many times when we feel paralyzed, it is because we have gone outward and thinking what will other people think? Like, for instance, how many people want to write a book, want to be a painter, want to be a podcaster or a Content creator or an artist? And you are like in that flow when you're doing it right, you're like I mean, you and I have talked about we want to learn to edit, we want to keep you know we want to teach us all those things and like we want to keep going deeper.

Speaker 2:

But it's funny once you start creating and then it's time to put it out in the world, all of a sudden we get paralyzed and we're like I don't know, it's not good enough or what will people think. And I think that In general, I beyond creative endeavors that may paralyze us Is like when I feel frozen, it's it's almost always because I have thought what are people gonna think about me? Even when I get anxiety, I had that realization is like oh, if I'm just me in here and expressing that by walking into the world, I'm okay with that. But the minute I think, how am I going to be perceived? Yep.

Speaker 1:

How do we change that? I don't know. I mean, I was thinking the other day I had to had to walk with a client up a really steep hill. Yes, oh god and and I like I, like it was fine. I was able to do it fine. My foot was killing me, I was out of breath and I was worried. If this person thinks I'm unable To get up this hill, I might be unable to help steward their career.

Speaker 2:

You know, isn't that the craziest shit ever, though? Here's what you just said. Let me say it back to you If I can't get up this hill without breathing heavy, I am not worth shit to anyone. But, that's where we go. Yeah right, I know it's like I was like this is the end of my career.

Speaker 1:

Like, this is just it, and it's just like. Why, like, why do we do that?

Speaker 2:

And he was probably out of breath too a little bit.

Speaker 1:

He or she? Yeah, they.

Speaker 2:

I honestly I mean this is If my soul was given another chance to come to this lifetime, it was, I'm pretty sure, to learn how to not give a shit about what people think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah which I was born with that gene and then I lost it. You know, like we all are. Do you remember where you lost it? I tell you 40 different places I lost it, but it's the you know. I mean it's. We're born to come into this world like going. This is amazing. Look at all this. Yeah, and every little heartbreak just makes us smaller and more constrained, nope, more. What is that word? Restrained?

Speaker 1:

Restrained.

Speaker 2:

Constrained. We're both feel great, yeah, great, um, but we get smaller and smaller ultimately, and it's like how do we undo that now where we go?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, man, I think it's, I think it's doing a lot of like what you just led me through. Yeah, you know, and it's like where is that? And not in a shameful sort of way but it's like where is that inconsistent with your current life?

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And what do we do about it? And something that you and this is just I'm putting things on you like our favorite thing to do, um, is that like you're doing something about it, like you were like we're going to record this, we're going to video it, we're going to have lights, we're going to have, you know, we're going to be in the same room, and it's like you're doing something about it.

Speaker 2:

That's good and it's like.

Speaker 1:

I would really, really love for you and for anybody listening to go like that one step toward doing something more, toward your ideal day.

Speaker 2:

Go you like wait right, I mean you're right, and it always is that one step.

Speaker 3:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I was talking with a group of coaches and they were talking about leading people through ideal day and how powerful it is, and I think it's powerful as well. But even this lady said you know, I had a client who woke up at 630 instead of eight o'clock and that small change in her ideal day made her day so much better. And so she changed that and next thing, you know, she started a new business because she spent that hour and a half that morning building this idea.

Speaker 2:

You know it's so yes, one tiny change can make such a difference and it is such a great tool to be able to go what is incongruent with what my life looks like now right.

Speaker 1:

Incongruent is a beautiful word, as is congruent, congruent gosh and constraint and restraint. Let's have a Latin monolith. We're a Latin podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, tell us about the song that you're going to play here at the end, and shall we sing along?

Speaker 1:

Is this the Young the Giant song? I heard this song when I was painting. I've got the Da Vinci's the Churian man.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, the naked guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but I have made some adjustments to make them neutral gender neutral. I love it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and she's kind of giving you like a fed talk.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm on the radio again, sarah. It's so beautiful. Anyway, when I was designing this thing for my wall, this song came on like on a Spotify, like radio thing, and I was like what the hell? And it describes all the beautiful quantum physics things we've discussed. Special thanks to our producer, sarah Weed.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 6:

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Speaker 5:

Oh, in five easy steps. Ain't the love I've left for the guy I've heard from me? But it's all you who need, and love will hold us together. Make us a shelter where there's hope, and I'll be my brother's keeper, so the whole world will know that. But not alone. It's waiting for you. Knock it out your door In the moment of truth, when your heart is the floor and you're on your knees, and love will hold us together. Make us a shelter where there's hope, and I'll be my brother's keeper, so the whole world will know that, but not alone.

Speaker 5:

This is the first day of the rest of your life. This is the first day of the rest of your life. See that in the dark, you can still see the light. It's gonna be alright. This is the first day of the rest of your life. This is the first day of the rest of your life. This is the first day of the rest of your life. See that in the dark, you can still see the light. It's gonna be alright. It's gonna be alright One more time, oh, and love will hold us together. I'll be my brother's keeper, so the whole world will know that, but not alone, I say it, not alone.

Speaker 6:

Thank you so much. God bless you, st Louis. Have one of them land and a happy Easter. We'll see you next time. He can still hear you.

Speaker 5:

One more time for Matt Maher.

Speaker 6:

That wraps up tonight's SOFA concert From First Baptist Church in Arno. Thanks again to African Vision of Hope For making this possible. And don't forget, you can win tickets to next week's show All day on Monday on 99.1 Joy FM.

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