Kat and Moose Podcast
Kat and Moose Podcast is a true-life podcast exploring the quirks of being human. We bring hilarious anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions about spirituality, mental health, personal growth, bodywork, midlife, relationships, self-care, and more!
Join hosts Kat, Moose, and Producer Sara as they dive deep into various topics: spirituality, mental health, mid-life questions, relationships, bodywork, poetry, loving ourselves, and living our most authentic lives. We also sprinkle in some enneagram and five-element theory because why not? We work in the music industry in Nashville, which also gets dabbled in.
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Teeth and Death
Ever found yourself chuckling through a dental disaster or reminiscing about the click-clack of grandma's dentures? Well, you're in good company! Join us as we swap tales brimming with humor and heart, from the silence of friends during tough times, to the delightfully bizarre world of oral emergencies and the echoes of family memories. Our quirky corner of the podcast universe is where laughter meets the bittersweet twists of life.
Life is a mosaic of milestones and mud puddles, and we're wading through it all, one story at a time. Whether it's toasting to graduations, musing on career transitions, or examining the delicate balance of personal boundaries, we're here to share it all. Tune in as we contemplate the lure of new academic pursuits, despite the ghosts of self-doubt, and how an 'earth element imbalance' might just be the missing puzzle piece in understanding ourselves.
We're wrapping up with a dose of heartfelt gratitude and a dash of encouragement, sending out virtual high-fives to all our listeners for joining us on this wild ride. Discover how to channel the boundless curiosity of your youth, flip the script on imposter syndrome, and embrace those small yet mighty life changes. And before we forget, hats off to Producer Sara, for keeping our podcast ship sailing smoothly. So, grab your headphones, and let's embark on this human journey together, where every step is a story waiting to be told.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
Speaker 3:Hey, oh my God, we're alive, we live, oh my gosh, Welcome to the land of the living.
Speaker 2:I have had so many listeners and friends text and say where are you?
Speaker 3:guys, I know, I know we have a lot of explaining to do. Yes, do you know?
Speaker 1:what's kind of like equal parts sad and equal parts funny to me. What Is not? One person has said anything to me.
Speaker 2:That surprises me a lot. Actually, You're the one that's like the recruiter of all listeners.
Speaker 1:I know. I know Our dear friend and listener, Chris, reached out to all of us and I monitor our email for the three times that it's actually working and so we did hear from Chris, but I'm so glad that there are people out there that have been missing us.
Speaker 3:How are you guys, holy smokes.
Speaker 2:I know, guys, I feel like we need big life updates. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:So start. You want to just do that in public, in front of thousands, millions of people.
Speaker 3:I think so. Basically, we experienced a bunch of death, Right yeah we did. I mean, it's crazy Pets and people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:You forgot about death. How nice of an escape mechanism.
Speaker 2:I mean, honestly, I was like, oh, I just thought we've been busy, but there were a lot of deaths, death travel. Okay, start from the top cat okay, starting from the top, hi hi hey cat, hi cat, hey moose, hey sar Sarah.
Speaker 1:Hi. Okay, I would like to start with my update. First, because I feel super special right now and I just have a lot of energy because I'm so happy to see you both and to be doing our podcast again because I have missed it. Oh, I've missed it so bad, me too. I last night. Well, I'm going to back up a little bit. I have chewed a hole in a crown in my mouth.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, yes.
Speaker 2:I could not wait to hear what was after I've chewed a hole. And I'm like, yeah, I chewed a hole in the hole, so you're not stressed. At all.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, I am, I mean, I'm so. I'm so good, I am so chill today that I have to leave my house at 11 o'clock because I'm going to the IMAX movie theater and I'm going to watch the Blue Angels documentary in the middle of the work day. Yeah, that's what I'm doing today incredible good for you yes, I'm going to go and just enjoy the shit out of that anyway. So a few days ago my crown popped off. I have crowns on every tooth in my mouth pretty much and one of them popped off and the dent.
Speaker 1:I went to the dentist to have him reseed it and he was like, well, you're gonna need a new one. And I was like, why? They're like two thousand dollars each. And oh my god, and he shut, he held it up and I could see light through it and he said you have chewed a hole in your crown. And I'm like, of course I have, because I have teeth of steel, you know, and um and so anyway, so it keeps popping off, even though he's temporarily reseated it. And so, um, last night the the dentist, I called and asked them what I should do and she was like, whatever you do, don't sleep with it in your mouth. What? Because I would hate for you to aspirate your crown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. What about aspirating you?
Speaker 1:Well, I think, aspirating my, crown would aspirate me.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:I think it. I think it would be an unhealthy situation.
Speaker 3:I understand, yeah, either way.
Speaker 1:And so last night, as if I am an elder person, I took out my tooth, I washed out my mouth, I cleaned my tooth and I set it on a white towel on the bathroom vanity. I'm going to get you a denture cleaner for your birthday.
Speaker 1:I pretty much I felt like I was utilizing dentures and then this morning, when I tried to reseed it back in my mouth with some temporary cement, I put like you know how, like, if you can imagine, putting like a putty, like cake icing in a little dish, okay, like, and then you try to put the dish on top of an orange Right, cake icing is gonna like come out. So this happened with my tooth and so my tooth is very high in my mouth oh, like it's sitting too high.
Speaker 2:That's gross.
Speaker 3:I don't like that feeling continue drilling a hole pretty much wow, that's annoying, but I'm gonna eat that damn popcorn, sarah yeah, oh hell, you have to.
Speaker 2:I mean, you can't go to the movie theater without just chew on the other side, just in case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay um, speaking of dentures and things like that, two things come up for me. One I had this babysitter growing up. That was like in the same townhouse area that we lived in and she must've been like a hundred years old, like the fact that my mom left my sister and I with her says how much my mom really cared, because from my memories, which are never accurate, we only were able to eat tomato soup there, which means I have a lot of trauma around tomato soup. And the other thing I remember about her is every time she would talk it was like this click of her dentures oh man.
Speaker 2:So it was like Andrea, get over here, Won't you? Oh, I don't know if they didn't have the cement correct or what was going on, but there was a click. To this day, if I meet someone who's got a little click in their talk, I go back to that tomato soup and sad little apartment. She watched. What's her name name? I need to ask my sister. The word that came up was ruby ruby, but I don't know if that was her name my sister she has less trauma at that rubies.
Speaker 2:The other thing that comes up is my mom had a partial plate and those are some weird looking things. Man, what like in her head?
Speaker 3:why is that funny?
Speaker 2:well, do you not know what a partial plate?
Speaker 1:is like okay clearly.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's an old phrase. How would you describe it, kat?
Speaker 1:um, I would describe a partial plate as a piece of dental equipment that replaces a lot of teeth at one time so like partial dentures, yeah, but it's like like I think my mom had like four.
Speaker 2:Hold on, I'm looking up an image. Did hers click about? No, hers were tightly fitted. Let me just show you what a partial plate can look like.
Speaker 3:Please do.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this Sarah is is a partial plate can look like. Hey, that is awesome.
Speaker 3:These guys are called partial dentures. I don't see the word plate in here at all.
Speaker 2:Well, my mom's looked a little bit different, like beyond, just like the metal holding together the fake gums she had like a gum in the middle that just set up against the top, the roof of her mouth. I guess it wasn't a gum. It looked more like this, but not as many teeth I mean, that's straight up, dentures like this one down.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So it was more like that, but it had a roof attached to it, so she had like a double roof. But anytime I would see her partial plate, I would. It looked like something from a horror movie. She probably had it for like 40 years or something or something.
Speaker 1:I wonder what that was like inside of her mouth all the time having that that roof thing like up against the roof, and my sister has a thing kind of like that. I need to ask her what that sensation is like. Hmm.
Speaker 2:Well, I I know we really need to get past this topic, but I would just like to share this.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got more to say.
Speaker 2:I? Um, didn't have wisdom teeth, so all my molars are like the second set of teeth that people get, and so I have to have them. As they disintegrate, I have to get implants. That's fun, and so I've got three or four implants back there, um which they're like eight million dollars each.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, yeah, I think they're each 22 000, aren't?
Speaker 2:they are you kidding well, they gotta drill into your bone it's at least three grand the amount of a tooth jeez, louise guys, the thing that's so stupid is like it's a tiny, like double sided screw One goes down into the bone, the other one goes into the tooth. How?
Speaker 1:is that three grand. I know, I want that shit to fit perfectly Right.
Speaker 2:And I don't want to spend that much when I don't want to spend that much.
Speaker 1:To me, here's my question If, like if, an implant at the dentist is $3,000, then why, as a body worker, do I only get paid $130 for almost two hours? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Well, that's because you're not valuing yourself enough.
Speaker 3:I think you should charge $2,300 an hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah be like look, a guy puts a screw in your bone gets three grand. I'm trying to make your trauma come out of your body. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right, you should get paid at least a grand. I agree. Oh, I think double three grand Like six grand.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, magician.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so who died? My cat died.
Speaker 2:Yeah, our old, really good friends Cat died.
Speaker 3:And your cousin, nope, your nephew.
Speaker 2:Happy the dog, oh, my and your cousin, nope, your nephew, happy the dog.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I thought you're talking about cats. I did too, and I was like oh man, I thought sarah knew this was like an older person than me oh yeah, I forgot about my nephew too yeah, your, your dog, nephew bella the cat and Uncle T, uncle T.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cat's Uncle T.
Speaker 2:Do you want to say anything about that Cat?
Speaker 1:I think that my experiences as it surrounds that are going to just come out on the podcast over time. Yeah, I do think that you know, know I was thinking about this last night knowing that we were recording this morning that I do have a lot to say about it. I have a lot to say about like, oh my gosh, please organize your shit so that when your life is like if you really, really, really love, I agree the people in your life who are going to take care of things after you die.
Speaker 1:Please just have your shit together in in some capacity, whether that's like record, a voice memo, and I know that's not legal, but you know it just. It's really really been challenging, yeah, um, to navigate, um, some of the things surrounding death, and it's really hard to navigate the grief of death, yeah, period. So when you slam those together, it's like what could go wrong, right, you know, you know it's just like utter chaos and confusion. And and um and my gosh, like, this was my uncle who, literally, under the influence of certain substances, thought he was the risen Lord.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a story we got to tell. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I mean, he, he really really I just will never forget. I think it was like at a family reunion or something. Really really I just will never forget. I think it was like at a family reunion or something. He walked up and and as he crested the hill he said I am the way, the truth and the life, and was holding out his outstretched arms and I was like that is Jesus Christ in my yard.
Speaker 2:He's in all of us, but Uncle T knew it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He knew it, he knew it, man Yep, he knew it, he knew it. Oh, he knew it Death is so hard, so we've covered teeth and death.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would like to take this moment to echo what you said Get your shit together, please, people. Just print out a piece of paper, put it on the refrigerator that says these are my wishes and then go clean up your shit, cause I don't want to go through all your shit. I don't care how much I love you.
Speaker 3:It's just a bunch of shit at that point and it's so hard to do at that stage. We've lost you, we're grieving. We don't want to sort through your stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I might skip the movie today and just bring my trash can to the side of my office door and just empty my cabinets. It's a really good idea.
Speaker 3:I really do.
Speaker 2:You have to write a letter life we should do this because we don't know what's gonna happen just have it ready. Nobody wants to guess. If you want to be buried or cremated, you got to tell us producer sarah presents the midlife purge with cat and moose.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, it could be a series. I like it I do too all right.
Speaker 2:so what other life updates? Oh, I graduated with my master's degree, ladies and gentlemen, oh, there's that, there's that. And I had the best, sweetest group of friends celebrate and I want to say thank you to everyone, including you, Kat, and you, Sarah. It was very sweet.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I ended up walking by the way, and that was special, and then I've applied for another program. I ended up walking by the way, and that was special, um, and then I've applied for another program. Really, yeah, we'll see, we're going to keep that on the DL right now.
Speaker 1:Oh, you just, you just let it come away from the DL. So you have to explain. You got to spill.
Speaker 2:Well, I've applied for a counseling program at MTSU Really, yeah, yeah, got to spill. Well, I've applied for a counseling program at MTSU really, yeah, yeah, that's so cool and it doesn't guarantee I'll get in. They only take like 20 people, but wow, I'm just gonna see where this path leads me.
Speaker 1:Well, that, is very exciting.
Speaker 2:That's very exciting uh, sarah and I had dinner with a friend of hers who is a therapist last night and I was like asking her all these questions and saying, you know, did you have imposter syndrome at this point? Cause you know coaching, I'm not saying it's just like that at all, but the setting is the same, and so I knew emotionally why might what come up? Might what could, might what anyway? But I I found myself at this dinner just feeling alive asking these questions and I was like, all right, I got to do it. So I did the final little prep of the application this morning and it has been submitted. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:Moose, I am so impressed with you right now. I am like almost blushing. I am so happy for you right now, like that feels good.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel like you might want to join the program as well. Do you remember the time that we went to Lipscomb and did like the um, what?
Speaker 3:was that like orientation or orientation?
Speaker 2:it was horrible, I know I was like there's nothing about this that makes me nothing. I mean, I hate to say that because we have friends that are in that program.
Speaker 1:Well, it doesn't mean that the orientation orientation was not impressive.
Speaker 2:no, it was. I mean, I would have come in and been like, let me tell you why you should choose us, and it was not that way, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was certainly not that way. So I've been over here trying to. I have a chronic earth element imbalance and if you care anything about Chinese five element theory or if you don't, I am still saying that I have a really chronic earth imbalance and so I am trying to do better at. Here is where I end and here is where you begin.
Speaker 1:And I don't care who the you is. You know if it's a client, if it's a family member, if it's one of you, whatever, if it's my dog, you know it's like we are not one enmeshed, codependent blob. I am me and you are you.
Speaker 3:And so.
Speaker 1:I was practicing as best as I could, not, going oh my God, I want to do it too. Why can't I do it too? Why you tell me, oh my God. And so I'm feeling really, really nurtured which is also an earth element thing by what seems like a slight invitation for me to join you. Do you really want?
Speaker 2:me to join you. I actually would be down for that. Because here's the thing though, it's not online, which I'm excited about. I mean, there's going to be hybrid stuff where classes will be online, but as far as once you get into leading, into your internship and all of those things you know you're, you're obviously in, but I am telling you, no matter what we do with these degrees to be a counselor and even if you were like I'm going to use this in my Jen Shindo stuff and me going, hey, I may end up in a business instead of my own private practice, but I have these skills, I'm a counselor oh my God, Like, so come on, bring it man.
Speaker 1:That's. That's so exciting. I don't. I don't know if it's a very limited capacity program and it's at all based on any sort of academic achievement, I will not get in, Okay.
Speaker 2:That is the most ridiculous thing ever.
Speaker 1:It's just true. Like I didn't do well in school, like I did great in massage school and in my training, but like in actual like school, where they put something on paper, that's like your GPA, like I am below average at best. Same.
Speaker 2:Well, hi, sarah, I would like to say hi, hi, see you.
Speaker 2:Okay, pause on this. However, come on if you would like to, because one of the things that Sarah's friend was sharing with me last night is the specific therapy group that she's with. They are looking for people who have been experienced in their industries, that now have gone to counseling school and that they will have that high touch point with for us, the music industry, for other people healthcare industry. So, like she's looking for people who are in their second careers because they already have the relationships inside of those industries.
Speaker 2:And that's what got me excited, because there are resources for artists, Um, but there aren't a lot of resources for those of us who work in the music industry, um, that are that where people actually understand what it's like to tour, what it's like to live and work in this music industry. It's like a lifestyle more than it is a job, you know. And so that got me excited because I was like, oh, there's actually people looking for folks to, to be specialized in those ways.
Speaker 3:It's that. And they're not counselors straight out of college. They're not 25 year olds and you, as an experienced business person, whatever the industry, is looking to go to see a counselor. No offense to the fresh out of schoolers, but like you want someone who's done this for a while. You know who's a yes, who has had life experience, business experience and then whatever their specific industry is as well, like that's huge.
Speaker 1:Really smart. Agree, yeah, that's very exciting. I have so much energy around this that I want to get up and like run around my chair and like flail all over the floor.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should. Yeah, what if you did? Okay, please do Go, kat go.
Speaker 1:Go Kat go. Yeah, go Kat go that was great.
Speaker 3:It felt so good to move that energy yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it, do it.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Sarah, do you have a life update?
Speaker 2:Um, yes, I don't understand.
Speaker 3:Sorry, siri. Siri always answers when people are talking to me. Even my Siri said something Um, I, I have a new job that I'm starting. I'm going to be the day-to-day manager for the artists that I've been touring with so stoked and I get to work with this awesome group of people that I really look up to and admire and, uh, it's going to be a really fun new adventure. I haven't had like a quote corporate desk job where I get paid twice a month with like benefits and all of that kind of shit, since I was like in my 20s. So wow.
Speaker 1:Congratulations, Sarah. Thank you Awesome. You're such a badass and they are so lucky Like they are so lucky to have you. Woo Woo, thank you.
Speaker 3:I'm excited. When do you start? I start on June 3rd. Soon, soon, soon.
Speaker 1:So, exciting, and so will you still be on and off the road.
Speaker 3:There's 30% travel with my new role, new role, um, and I will, and also I will finish the tour that I'm on, which goes through June 12th, so it'll be a little bit of an overlap, um. So, yeah, I'm excited, I'm really excited.
Speaker 1:That's really, really cool, and will you continue um doing your podcast work, too, outside of our?
Speaker 3:podcast. That has shifted, kind of happenstance, in a in an odd way. I was working with them really for only about four weeks and then they had an internal shift. So I'll still work with them from like a contract basis, but the the role that I was working with them from a part-time standpoint has been eliminated, just because they're kind of rearranging their internal stuff. But it worked out perfectly because it was starting to get pretty hectic or just busy as a part-time job for me while I was trying to carry my other role.
Speaker 3:And then with the application process and the interview process of this new job that I now have, I was starting to get real nervous of like Ooh, am I going to be able to carry both of these? Well? And so when that kind of went away, I wasn't like I was a little surprised but I wasn't like okay, I just I kind of let it just flow, you know, and it worked out well. So I'll still. I'll still get to work with them. Thankfully we all office out of the same space and I'll get to do a couple of um contract podcast work, um, which is fun. But again, like my focus is now going to be on my new gig, so it'll be good and then, of course, our podcast.
Speaker 3:So I have to keep my my podcast windows, which are very small, uh, open for the priorities you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we are one of them. You are the priority.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you for that and it is good to have you put that out in the space for us to talk about. Are we continuing on, guys? I think we are yeah.
Speaker 3:Why wouldn't we?
Speaker 1:Because we can't get rid of us okay, good, because I love when we get to do this together and I love our listeners and I love the feedback that we get, even the feedback that's hard to hear, ruthie, and you know it, I'm really, really hard to hear yeah, and I'm just really grateful to still know that we have this space and sometimes life just takes us on a bit of an adventure, that that breaks our routine a little bit.
Speaker 1:I'm going was a substitute um demo body for a class at the massage school that I went to and I was thinking on my drive home last night I was thinking, um, what is my routine going to be like in Savannah? Because it's not going to be anything like what it is at home, because I don't have the same environment, like my dog's not going to be there, like it's just going to be like really different. And I started getting a little bit of anxiety about, oh my gosh, what is it going to be like to kind of stick a stick in the spokes of my routine and my whole body just said, yes, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1:Yes, you need to to break your routine a little little bit, and that doesn't mean that you're a horrible, fat, stupid, dumb person. You just need a break in your routine that's right you know and it felt. It felt really good.
Speaker 2:So yay for changes I know you quite well. Yes, what in the hell is taking you to savannah, georgia? I?
Speaker 1:i's beautiful but I know, you, I know, and that's where Miss Paula Dean, I think, is there, or Charleston.
Speaker 2:They're next to each other, but it's hot and I don't think you would choose that, if I know you at all. So why are you going to Savannah?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to Savannah because the person I'm going with has a strange infatuation with the place and so that's fun. You know, it's just like OK, for some reason, like you're really excited about the, the aesthetic and the history of this place and that kind of energy is just fun to be around. Yeah, so that's that's probably my main reason, and my second reason is that it is on the water. Like we're staying on the river, oh cool.
Speaker 1:And then Tybee Island, which is on the ocean is only like a 20 minute drive away and I've never been there.
Speaker 3:Me either.
Speaker 1:So I really have been longing to connect with water.
Speaker 1:And it's like I'm so grateful that the swimming pool is open as of this weekend and like yay, connecting with water. And it's like I'm so grateful that the swimming pool is open as of this weekend and like yay, connecting with water. But last night, when I was in this class, I was reminded that the water element has a lot to do with trust and fear, and there's something about being by the enormity of the ocean that is so incredibly terrifying because it's so much bigger than me. Yeah, and I also just really trust that it's going to ebb and flow.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it has for hundreds, thousands of years, you know, and it's like there's something really um, soothing and comforting to me about that. So I'm really, really excited to be by the water.
Speaker 2:I love that cat. How long are you going to be there? Four days, three nights short, beautiful. I have more questions, but we'll do that outside of the podcast.
Speaker 3:I wanted to say it reminded me over the weekend we were driving back from Colorado and, um, with, in light of me starting my new gig, you know, with anything new and any change, like you're saying, kat, uh comes that imposter syndrome or that like, uh, I don't measure up, I don't line up, I don't belong, whatever the things are. And we, and so I was like, let's listen to some podcasts on that, because I'm inevitably, yeah, inevitably, going to feel that when I walk into my new gig. And, um, one of the things that stood out to me I can't remember which podcast you're listening to, but Jay Shetty was a guest on that podcast and he was talking about that as basically looking at it like a challenge. Um, he, what did? How did he say?
Speaker 2:it was like the the difference between so he was talking about how there is basically a knowledge gap when you have imposter syndrome. So say that you are. You find yourself at a dinner table with all these people who are like finance wizards, and it's you cat sitting with them. And not that you're not a finance wizard, but no, but you have that moment. We've all had that moment where you're like how did I get here? How, where, how do I belong here? And he said it's at that moment.
Speaker 2:Actually, what you should be looking at is, um, oh, I just don't know what they know. It's a learning gap, basically. And so when that imposter syndrome happens, instead of giving yourself a hard time and going I don't belong here and believing all that, you actually go. Oh, the reason I'm feeling this is I have a knowledge gap that I need to fill. And then you ask yourself do I want to learn this? And there's going to be times where you're like, no, actually I'm fine with it, so let me just be where I'm at and whatever, whatever. But then there's other times where you're like, yes, I want to gain this understanding. And he was saying, if you recognize an imposter syndrome as that, it's just a learning journey and you could fill in the details there.
Speaker 3:Right, it's just a movement towards growth at that point. And and so I'm like, okay, I'm, I know I'm going to feel that you just do when you, when you walk into anything new, um, so expect that, don't give yourself a shitty time or be be hard on yourself. Decide, you know, like, of course I'm going into a new job, so everything is going to be a learning gap. There's going to be, there's gonna be stuff I do know, but I also don't know the community, their flow there, you know, and that's all going to be opportunity for me to just learn and not feel stupid.
Speaker 3:But go, uh hi, new card, pulling the new card. How do you guys do this here? What do you bet about? You know? Um, it, it's helped my pre anxiety you know how we get the anxiety before we do something and instead I'm just like I'm not going to like waste my time being anxious about starting something new. Everyone knows I'm going to be new, including, you know, the people that are receiving me and myself. So give your, give your brain a break and anyway, I guess that's a big long way to say like, even with you breaking your routine and going to a new, new environment with you know, doesn't have your dog, it doesn't have your normal, normal C's. There could be an opportunity to see or find something new for yourself and future. You know that you could get to bring back with you maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, thank you. That's so encouraging and I'm so happy for you that you resourced yourself right, like you were, like I. I know that I have a deficit in this area. I know I have a need. I'm going to go and search for a podcast on this and maybe stumble upon a good one, and, oh my gosh, there's really good people who are really smart out there who talk about the shit that we need to hear about. Like, how cool is that, you know?
Speaker 3:no-transcript I've just thinking of. I just compared it in my brain to like, uh, the first time you travel somewhere, you've never, you've never been to Savannah or whatever. So if you're in charge of driving, you're going to like, look up, you know, you're going to make sure the maps are on your phone because you just are unfamiliar. But then by the time you leave you'd been there four days, three nights. You know you've been to Savannah, georgia now, so it's not scary. And um, we just we don't know what we don't know. So, like, giving yourself that, like, okay, I could give myself whatever prep work I need, but I don't have to be prepped with anxiety.
Speaker 3:I just talk yourself through it, which, let me just say, that's new for me. I usually prep myself with anxiety, so this is. It feels good. It feels like I don't know, I'm confident in my, my skills. I know, when I was looking at the initial application, I'm like this thing was written for me, like I'm confident that I could do this role. Now I just need to like, feel like I belong in that group, you know, and that's just going to take me getting there and being there and getting to know the people.
Speaker 1:So it'll be good. Yeah, that's exciting. That's congratulations, sarah. That's really exciting. And Moose congratulations on graduating with your master's degree and on applying for your new counseling certification. I am just or degree? Is it a degree?
Speaker 2:Uh no, it's a degree, it's a. It's a degree, it's a degree, and I will send you the program for you to look at. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll totally look at it.
Speaker 1:I will totally look at it, Absolutely Um, I am. I am doing something that I am hoping will invoke so much FOMO and jealousy that you will join me.
Speaker 2:So this is oh, is this what you text about?
Speaker 1:Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do need like a spiel. Is this what you?
Speaker 1:text about Like.
Speaker 2:I haven't looked at it is my point, so I'm ready for your spiel Give. I want you to sell this to me Like you are selling. Uh, what are those places called? I almost had a mind share, a share. It's a apartment, a timeshare. I want you to be a timeshare. Ok, you know what I mean Sales lady. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I already have FOMO.
Speaker 2:Thank you, sarah, thank you Sarah, thank you, sarah. Don't give in to her, sarah, don't look in her eyes too closely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely don't. I actually don't want you to do it, I want to do it all by myself, so I get to have the fun all by myself Boring.
Speaker 1:As you well know, I have been going through this training for eventually becoming certified as a um Jin Shin Do practitioner, and Jin Shin Do is the way of the compassionate spirit and it is local, distal acupressure and that is the modality of body work that I am just bonkers about and really believe in and has been a big part of my healing journey. Yep, my chief instructor, the person who I've spent the most classroom hours with, steve, he threw out to the class I am going to start taking a beginning to improv class at a comedy club here in Nashville on Monday nights for six weeks and if any of you would like to join me, that would be amazing and Moose. For as long as I've known you, you've been passionate about improv and you've even encouraged us. It might serve us and the podcast well, and if we were to, you know, to do an activity like this or whatever, and so this is a very inexpensive, short commitment with one of the finest humans that is in this realm on this planet.
Speaker 1:As one of the participants and me, I mean like not that's not who I'm talking about, steve, but like I also am going to be in the class, and I just think it would be so fun to completely reiterate that I have a very chronic earth imbalance and I don't know where I stop. And you begin and I want you to. I want you to mesh with me. I don't love meshing, oh, I know, oh, and I want you to do it so bad.
Speaker 2:Okay, when you sent me that you know sometimes you just like glance at things I thought it was like a Jin Shindou thing, Because all I saw was Jin Shindou and a link. This is an improv thing.
Speaker 1:It's an improv class. It has nothing to do with body work. It is a comedy class. What day is it? It's on Monday nights from 6.30 to 9.30.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, sarah, will you do it? When does it start?
Speaker 1:june the 3rd, oh, same day as you start your new gig.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna think about this. Yeah, yeah, just think on it. Okay, I really like the idea. I'm a little nervous and like scared, but also I could see that being really fun yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm I'm nervous and scared and can also see it being a lot of fun, and if it is meant to be, it will be, and I, I, I'm just, yeah, I'm curious to see how time unfolds.
Speaker 2:Do you know anyone else that's joining?
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 3:Okay, I don't, we should just get a whole group of people.
Speaker 1:It would be pretty fun. I mean, we would have so much fun hey.
Speaker 2:Nashville people if you want to sign up.
Speaker 3:Let us know where to go. Let us know, so we can decide. Yeah, ps, there's limited space, so like we can't, I will make a quick decision. Tickets are going fast space is limited.
Speaker 2:um, I was gonna just bounce off of the whole thing we were talking about earlier with imposter syndrome, I think, as I am aging and this fine body of mine, I'm realizing that you know, people say, you know, you believe in multiple lives and things like that, that we come back to learn. Okay, that we're here to learn. And I think, um, if we can replace our anxiety which is hard to do, cause I am a very anxious person but if we can replace our anxiety which is hard to do, because I am a very anxious person but if we can replace our anxiety with curiosity, kind of what Sarah was sharing from the Jay Shetty thing we listened to if we can. When we feel that anxiety, for me it's usually putting myself in a new position, like even going to this improv thing. Yeah, what if I look at it as curiosity, like because the, the anxiety is generally around, what if I don't get it right, whether that's, I won't know enough, I won't, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2:And I think that's something we've learned, because as children, you're not worried about getting it right or wrong, you just want to go with your friends and do cool things, you know, and so that's all I wanted to say is, as you guys were talking, I was like, oh, we actually need, when we feel the anxiety, we need to embrace what we're curious about. And again, we have a choice. If we're like, oh, I don't want to do that, that's fine. But what if you did it and you said, yes, what kind of fun could come out of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it, it's so, it's so like Ted Lasso-esque of you Well.
Speaker 2:I need to watch Ted Lasso. I haven't gotten the chance. It's worth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really. It's right on the edge of what I can tolerate as far as like the, the kind of programming that it is and and and. It's right on the edge. So I have gotten sucked into it and one of the things I think it was in the first season that he said that has just stuck with me for a really long time is replace judgment with curiosity. Oh really, yeah, and it's like, instead of having a judgment about a thing like that tree looks like it's overgrown, it's like if I look at that tree and go that tree looks overgrown, I wonder if I should cut it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. It's like that's a different, that's a different.
Speaker 2:It is, it really is, and I think that it takes us getting out of our thinking patterns to go like to be so intentional. Yeah, um, it's something I'm trying to do because, um, I know we don't have a ton of time, but I will share this. I've noticed a frozen pattern in my life where the good news is I've noticed it because I think it's been there a while but I have these ideas of like I want to go do this, I want to go do this, and then I, even though my mind wants to do it, I feel so frozen, which is part of depression, and I know it's related to that, but I have been. I don't think I was giving myself a choice before and, kat, you always say that, like, you know well, you have a choice, you know, and I've never really like thought that. I've always thought, well, I should be doing this.
Speaker 2:And now, when I have those moments where I'm like, say, I'm like I should be going for a walk to get movement into my day, I'm like, do I want to go for a walk? I want to be in nature, but I may not want to go for a walk, and it's. It's sort of that back and forth like of of um, maybe I'm my body can't do that right now, for whatever reason, I don't know. Depression, whatever you want it to be, but like to give yourself the out and then go. What is it that I actually want instead of the should? It's the judgment, the curiosity versus judgment, right, um, but I'm noticing that that is giving me more love and attention to that area of myself, you know, yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 1:Like. What does that feel like Like when? What does that shift feel like?
Speaker 2:Like when? What does that shift feel like? Well, I it feels more soft than rigid, which my nature can be rigid, and what happens is if I stay in the rigid, nothing happens. But if I give myself options and have like a conversation with that part, I find myself going I don't really want to go do that because it's hot outside and I know I'm just using one example, but for anything? But let me explore what I really want you know, internally and that's been really healthy for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sounds very healthy. That sounds really different that sounds really different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is different, but it takes going. My pattern is this I don't do this, then I feel bad and then I'm judgmental towards myself. And this time, what if I don't do it still? But I explore like, well, maybe there's actually a reason why I'm not doing it, maybe I have something attached to that idea that's too hard or too much for right now.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, One of the things that I have learned from my body work practitioner that hopefully will just stick with me for all of eternity is she has said to me before there is probably a really good reason that you've done that.
Speaker 2:Isn't that a wonderful thing to say to someone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, there's probably a really good reason that you've developed that pattern. Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 2:Everybody needs to write that down.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. And what is it like to just appreciate you and your body's ability to create that pattern, to create your own safety? Yes, exactly Right. That's like a fucking miracle, like that's awesome, I agree. And what is it like to check out the idea of what if I just make a little bit of an adjustment, what if I change that neural pathway just a little?
Speaker 2:bit.
Speaker 1:Right, what does that feel like and can that feel safe? Even if just here in this moment, listening to the podcast, you know it's like, okay, then that is nothing changes if nothing changes. Yeah, but just one little shift.
Speaker 2:I found that. I found that to be so true around addiction, or just you could say, you know bad patterns, however you want to say it, but when I felt like I was in a place when I wasn't, when I was thinking about quitting drinking, when I got sober back in 2017 and I tried to make those little things like, I would be like, okay, what if I don't go out for drinks? You know what I mean. What, how does that change? Just that little tiny thing, and it eventually led me to quitting for like seven years, but I it was. Those little changes can be life-changing, as we know right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, how about that? Y'all you guys are such an inspiration. I love you so much, we love you, we love you so much.
Speaker 2:We love you. We love you so much too, and we're back, y'all. Hi, if everyone could just stay alive, we'd sure appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be so awesome. And yeah, please stay alive, and we will try to as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Happy, whatever day you're listening to this and we hope you have a great day. We do and change those crazy patterns. If you want to, yeah, if not, it's your choice. Bye, guys.
Speaker 1:Special thanks to our producer, Sarah Reed.
Speaker 2:To find out more, go to catandmoosepodcastcom. Cat and Moose is a BP production.
