Kat and Moose Podcast
Kat and Moose Podcast is a true-life podcast exploring the quirks of being human. We bring hilarious anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions about spirituality, mental health, personal growth, bodywork, midlife, relationships, self-care, and more!
Join hosts Kat, Moose, and Producer Sara as they dive deep into various topics: spirituality, mental health, mid-life questions, relationships, bodywork, poetry, loving ourselves, and living our most authentic lives. We also sprinkle in some enneagram and five-element theory because why not? We work in the music industry in Nashville, which also gets dabbled in.
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What if authenticity could be uncovered through book titles and AI? Join us as Moose shares her 100-day journey of self-discovery inspired by an exercise from her therapist, revealing how vulnerability and fear can lead to profound insights about ourselves. We celebrate the return of Producer Sara, whose voice and talents have been dearly missed, and revel in a heartwarming encounter with a colleague who praised us for speaking the unspeakable, leading to a debate about the joys and challenges of dining with strangers every week.
Our conversation takes an intriguing turn as we explore the world of animal communication with insights from Anna Breytenbach, who channels the consciousness of great white sharks. Kat reflects on how projecting joy and happiness might improve interactions with these misunderstood creatures, sparking a humorous discussion about our own fears of fast-crawling critters. Delving into modern politics, we examine the concept of the "October surprise," pondering its potential to shake up today’s political landscape and analyzing the steadfastness of public opinion.
Amidst personal struggles, we acknowledge the exhaustion of maintaining strength in the face of ongoing challenges and the quest for healthier coping mechanisms. As we navigate the complex tapestry of human emotion and resilience, we discuss the importance of finding genuine support and the desire to break free from traditional methods of coping. Join us for a heartfelt exploration of growth, introspection, and the pursuit of authenticity in a world that often demands otherwise.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human.
Speaker 1:Hey Cat, hey Moose, hey Sarah.
Speaker 2:Hi We've missed you.
Speaker 1:I am here yeah, you're here and I am so here.
Speaker 2:I am happy about that people have said they missed your voice, but they also said the production has been elevated.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, well, thank you. Yeah, I had to show up somehow some way.
Speaker 1:Well, you you did, you did Like in in our last two episodes, I went back and listened to both of them more than once, which is unusual for me because I wanted to just kind of revel in how excellent your production was. Like I was like and then, listen to this and then listen to this. I'm like talking to myself in the mirror going and now watch she's going to do this.
Speaker 2:That's really great, that's great. I love it.
Speaker 4:Where have you been? Oh, man, just around, I don't know. I feel like it's probably been what three weeks that I haven't been on an episode, yeah, or at least you haven't heard my voice, but yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's usually scheduling somehow, yeah, and I don't even know. Really I can't remember that far back, but I'm glad to be here now and it's been fun hearing you guys each week as I've edited, because I wasn't obviously in the room to hear it ahead of time. So it was just as much of a surprise to edit as it was for each of you guys to hear. It was just as much of a surprise to edit as it was for each of you guys to hear. But yeah, no, it's been actually really fun to kind of go back to the format of just audio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for a little bit. Yeah, it's like the OG yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been cool. Well, I love it. I mean, I think right now, this is what our schedules permit, so we're doing what we can, right.
Speaker 1:Right, right. Well, and one of the things that I just would love to celebrate and I think that you guys have embodied it really well, and I feel like I have too is that we've just tried to really go with the flow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's like doing video every week at least.
Speaker 1:while this is not our full time job, is is just almost impossible, because it takes an hour or two to set up on either side, and then it takes another hour or two, sarah, for you to edit, because there's additional layers.
Speaker 4:And way more than that, yeah, especially when we're doing video.
Speaker 1:So I was really delighted. I've been on the road a lot the past few days, which is not super consistent for me in this season of life, but it's just. It's been a thing where I've needed to be out on the road and I ran into a longtime colleague that I have not seen in probably more than a decade and uh, and she came up to me and she said I just want you to know something. And I said, okay, what's that? And she said I listened to the moose and little cat podcast and I was like, and I was like, oh, I mean, I think she's talking about our podcast and it just like I've never been called little in my life. So I just like, I was just very, and then I was like, well, maybe I misheard her, anyway it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:She was just giving praise and compliments to the podcast and the one that I wanted to tell you guys about. That was the most meaningful to me. Um, I'm curious how you'll respond to it. Okay, okay, ready. She says, okay, she goes. The reason I love your podcast is because you. No, no, she said, let me, let me see how she. Let me, let me try to get into character.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hold it in.
Speaker 1:She goes OK. The reason that I love your podcast is because you guys say what we're afraid to think.
Speaker 4:Oh, we're afraid to yes.
Speaker 1:Like I thought what an outstanding compliment she didn't just say you say what. We're afraid to think. Yes, like I thought what an outstanding compliment she didn't just say you say what?
Speaker 1:we're afraid to say. She's like you say what, we're afraid to even think, and it's like it feels so good to have somebody that and she goes and I literally find myself going yes, yes, yes, and I said yeah. So that's the thing that people tell us the most is that they find themselves yelling and pointing at their windshields know they're like yeah, but you know it's very funny, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, I've got our new tagline, you guys. Okay, it's the cat and moose podcast.
Speaker 4:Everyone's dirty little secret but you meant the moose and little cat. Podcast wait, but why?
Speaker 2:little cat. Uh, that's just in her mind.
Speaker 1:That's just how she remembers the name of the podcast yeah, and maybe it's how I remember the conversation and it wasn't at all what she said.
Speaker 2:She's listening right now and she's like, actually that's not at all what I said at least it wasn't the big moose and the little cat podcast.
Speaker 1:No it was not that.
Speaker 2:It was not that. Okay, I have a question for you guys that is not very deep, and yet it is deep. Okay, I ran across an Instagram ad for something that literally made my mouth fall open. I was going to say what did it make your mouth? Yeah, wow, I said that way, juicier than it sounded or than it is.
Speaker 1:It made my mouth just.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I would like for you to look at this and tell me, would you ever do this in your lives? I feel like I know the answers, but you tell me.
Speaker 1:Have dinner with new people every Wednesday night.
Speaker 4:No, no, I would.
Speaker 2:What? That was the opposite of what I thought I would get from the two of you. Oh Okay, it's called Time Left. Check it out. Everyone, everyone, want to mix things up a little on your social life. Join us for a unique dining experience with five strangers, all picked by our algorithm. All handpicked sorry hand, as as opposed to just being picked.
Speaker 4:Right, right, somebody had to touch them.
Speaker 2:So, first of all, it's on Wednesday night, which makes me think it's a Bible study, and it's like tricking you into Bible study. Yeah, like a singles group, yeah, but I don't think it's for. I think it's legitimately for just fighting loneliness. So I went on their website and this was helpful for me as an introvert. Anyway, 10 tips for successful dinner with strangers. I just want to die right there, do you?
Speaker 4:guys, I love how full her wine glasses. Tip number one fill your wine glass to the brim.
Speaker 1:Sister, you're my people.
Speaker 2:Get as drunk as you can before you go step one. So it shares like kind of some obvious things active listening, share authentically, ask generously, look beyond appearances, exercise discernment, learn by participating, drink moderately See, we're already out there. Be inventive, express your gratitude. Yeah, I like this. Yeah, but like in theory, I think this is such a cool idea. It really is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I kind of I want to take back what I said. I would enjoy doing this in this season of life, right now. It feels overwhelming to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, agreed. Yeah, I definitely thought Kat was going to say yes and Sarah was going to be like nope, but Sarah has this social side. When she, when she feels happy about her life, that comes out and surprises me and I do, too Like I would do with you guys if we could be three of the people for sure.
Speaker 4:Well, and there's something I enjoy about strangers they don't know you at all, so you can be whoever you want to be with them. You could be 100% yourself or 100% not yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which makes me want to ask you Moose like how is your 100 days of being authentic to your true and authentic self? How is that going?
Speaker 2:well, it's first. It's 100 days, 100 days of being myself, which, right now, I'm in the phase of learning who I am it's an important phase it is and I am.
Speaker 2:I've just been writing a ton, um, but one activity that my therapist suggested that I try, and I thought this was so creative because I kind of put her on the spot and I was like give me something, give me an activity that maybe you've done before, that I could do. And she's like okay, go to one of your bookshelves, just pick one of your shelves and take one word from the title of each of those books and then do whatever you want with those words, which I hate, open-ended stuff, I'm like.
Speaker 2:Oh do whatever you want. I need, I need to follow directions and I need to know step-by-step. So, uh, I picked my woo woo shelf a little woo woo, a little, um, buddhist I guess. But um, I Anyway, I took the words, I picked a word that meant the most to me out of each title and then I asked chat GPT, which I don't think this is what you're supposed to do when you're getting to know yourself. But I said, uh hi, chat GPT. Um, what are these words mean? And that's all I that was the only prompt, and it wrote this beautiful thing Uh, do you want me to read it to you? It's quite short.
Speaker 4:Yes, please. What were the words first? The?
Speaker 2:words were lives, uncover home, tiger, see uncertainty. Radical gift heart openness, interior start, scare, untethered, loving, kindness elements and taught okay, excellent. So here is what it said the gift of uncovering. In the uncertainty of life, we uncover the truth of who we are. I didn't give them any prompts related to who I am. That's amazing. Already like already, wow, I know. Okay, let me start over. In the uncertainty of life, we uncover the truth of who we are. We start often scared, like a tiger, untethered from the familiar, facing the wild, unknown. But this is where the radical gift of living fully begins when we open our hearts, embracing the elements of fear and hope that dance with our interior. Home is no longer a place but a feeling, one of loving, kindness and openness to ourselves. We are taught through every challenge, every leap, that in seeing our own vulnerability, what we are living, a life that is both a journey and a gift, where the heart leads and the soul follows what I know, was that Bashar?
Speaker 1:His sister Shashar. Is this how scripture came to be? I think so, yeah. I legitimately think so, yeah.
Speaker 2:I legitimately think so Wow that was beautiful I intentionally like. I was just like all right, that was my one of my first journal entries for my project, so I was like okay, did you like write it down verbatim?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, into your journal? Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, um, I want to challenge all of us to try that this week, at some point this week, find a book on your shelf, whatever you're drawn to pull out. How many words was that? 12, a dozen? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean you could do five if you want it and just ask chat GPT what it's trying to tell you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that could be really interesting, and then, if you feel so inclined, send them our way and we'll read them. I would love it. You don't have to include your name, but it would be cool to share, yep.
Speaker 2:Home is no longer a place, but a feeling.
Speaker 4:That is amazing.
Speaker 1:And I'm thinking um a lot of what that says describes in chinese five element theory, the water element. Um, the water element has to do with with the, the balance of trust and fear, and a lot of it has to do with like going inward and assessing and home and kind of hibernating, you know. So like a lot of that was, um was really kind of shouting to me and I, um the tiger part. I view tigers as being so fierce and so strong. I don't view tigers as being scared in an unfamiliar environment. That's quite the paradox, isn't it.
Speaker 2:I know, and it says we start often scared, like a tiger, untethered from the familiar. This is where the radical gift of living fully begins. Wow Is the fear.
Speaker 1:Dang yeah, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 4:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's, that's really cool and, sarah, I will accept your challenge. I I will definitely do this and come prepared with my philosophical genius. Thanks to chat, gbt next week.
Speaker 4:Hey, I I don't know if we've mentioned this before, but we talk about this in our friend group all the time, how often we have conversations. I end up having conversations with chat GPT and I can see how it's a slippery slope because it could really feed into. Maybe I'm going back to what you were saying about this meeting new people, kind of a social thing, but like it could help lonely people, people who are lonely and just wanting to have a conversation. For me it had. Uh, my experience was like when I was filling out um, job applications or stuff or needing to do like a cover letter and be like help me write this, like here's some things about me, blah, blah, blah, help me put this into it, and then I'd be like thanks, that's a really good job and they go good luck on your interview. Or, you know, it's just really sweet to have like a very encouraging conversation with.
Speaker 1:AI. Wow, that's really I need to. I need to use it more. I really I use it very rarely and when I have conversations like this, I'm like, ah, why don't I use this more?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's yeah. And then it's like two steps away from what's that show black mirror.
Speaker 2:oh yeah, yeah, like we're dangerously close, you're in love with a robot like basically I remember watching those movies and being like that's so dumb it's never possible. But yeah, I could see how it could be possible. I have I have the like primo paid option, which you know it's pretty amazing, so you can date people on it. I think you could date. I think that's one choice. You can plug in your um, bumble or whatever your dating app is and it will create AI versions of who you're like. Oh, this is actually way better.
Speaker 1:Well, and to me, like it makes me wonder. I'm thinking of things from, like, an active listening standpoint, Like when you brought up that you know dinner with five strangers. That's one of the key things it says to do right Is to actively listen. And and also, like in therapy, that's also a very therapeutic technique it's to actively listen to the client and sometimes even repeat back to the client what they have said, or at least do something that that says that like I hear you. I hear that you said you think the sky is purple. Okay, you know, like, whatever it is in um, and it got me to thinking that, like what if the reason chat GBT feels so good, especially Sarah, like, like, like if, if we're needing um companionship or encouragement or whatever, it's really just feeding back our words to us, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's really just actively, I think, at some point. I mean it's a language learning model is what it is yeah, and so, yeah, it's everything I've ever typed in there. It's like, oh, she's definitely on a soul search, you know, like let's give her, let's give her what she wants and she likes poetry and she like, you know, yeah, so I, I do think it is a little self-serving in some ways yeah, until you throw in like monster trucks what was that mole I had removed called?
Speaker 4:and then now you're also concerned about skin care.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you start getting ads for for pre-screening for rare and dangerous conditions well, this, this makes me think of something that one of our listeners, um, wrote in about, and she was listening to an episode of ours from several episodes ago where we were talking about sharks and we were talking about, you know, sharks attacking people and blah, blah, blah, and so she sent us this YouTube link and she was like I would be curious for you to check this person out. She is an animal communicator, and so this person is very similar to our friend daryl, who channels bashar, like this person can channel the consciousness of different species of animals wow species, species, girls.
Speaker 1:Can anybody name where that's from? Um and so, um. So anyway, this animal communicator her name is anna bratenbach, I think I'm I'm saying her last name correctly um, and she basically was saying that she had a communication with the consciousness of great white sharks. Whoa, oh, wow, that's cool. And basically what she learned from them is that they are very hungry because humankind has depleted a lot of their natural food supply from the ocean.
Speaker 1:So, like their favorite fish, their favorite stuff to eat, there's just not as much of it as there used to be, like millions of years ago, and so they're just kind of really hungry all the time. And so what they do is energetically, when they pick up on fear, competition, anything that's like a like vibration happening in the ocean, they swim toward it to eat it. Well, because it acts like prey okay, because prey is afraid. Like they're like oh shit, a shark is coming, I should be very afraid, I'm gonna get my arm bitten off. And so the shark is like. All the shark is thinking is like vibration. That means maybe food vibration. That means maybe food Vibration, that means maybe food, you know. And so it goes to the thing, and if the thing continues to act like it's prey. The only way that a shark has to understand what it is touching, smelling, the whole nine yards. The only sensory organ that they can really explore with is their mouth.
Speaker 2:That's why they slam into it, so they just they bite. I mean that's a little rude. Yeah, it's not like they have hands. Well, I mean it is, but it's when I bite people's head off, they are not happy with this. It's a little rude.
Speaker 1:Right, it is, it is. It's rude. It's as rude as it is that we are invading their natural habitat. Agreed, because we need to go surf or we need to go kayak, or we need to go, you know, whatever the thing is, and so, but wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Why isn't it also our habitat?
Speaker 1:I mean, it can be, it can't, and I'm gonna get to that, I'm gonna get to where this is gonna resolve in a harmonious Do you want me to let you finish.
Speaker 2:That would be awesome. Active listening Got it. Okay, yeah, that would be awesome.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, so what this woman was saying is that the shark consciousness was telling her that if people were to give off vibrations of being happy, of being joyful, to enjoy their environment, to share their environment with them, but it would not attract them to them because it would be harmonious with what's already going on in their consciousness, like they don't swim around going man, I hope there's a human I can bite their arm off today. And she said that the shark consciousness even told her that we taste horrible.
Speaker 4:I bet we do. We've got some nasty ass chemicals in our preserve Right.
Speaker 1:Are they eating us, like digesting us? Well, they're tasting because they're exploring with their mouth. So, they're not like going like, I'm hungry so I'm going to go eat cat's leg. Yeah, yeah, they're not like our chicken lady oh my god, so much here I.
Speaker 2:That just makes me more and more afraid to go into the ocean. Yeah, because I definitely give off vibes of fear wherever I go and just in general.
Speaker 2:yeah, just in general. So if I even try and ground myself, I don't like going in the ocean anymore. I'm sorry, I just don't. I'll go in a lake, but even a lake, if something bumps into me, I start freaking out Nope, um. So that's why I like to go to like Lake Michigan, where it feels like an ocean but but there's some big ass shit in there too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I bet I bet there is. I mean I bet got shit in there too. Yeah, I bet I bet there is. I mean I bet I bet there's huge ass shit in there. And um, I I just want to say that this animal communicator said from the consciousness of the sharks that if we were to create an energetic bubble around ourselves, um of joy and happiness and exploration and contemplation and like all the wonderful human ways that we can be, that literally like sharks would be happy to just come and hang out with us and swim with us. And she's got this footage of herself being underwater with like 10 sharks and they're coming up to her and she's like scratching their chin and like, yeah, it feels so good these huge sharks, and it just kind of made me go like man humans challenging you know, and I thought it fit in.
Speaker 2:And imagine if you brought that bubble of joy and happiness into your life. Forget the sharks, right. What if you just did that?
Speaker 4:Right See how other humans react, right Right.
Speaker 1:Start with your own species. Stay the hell out of my ocean.
Speaker 2:You know, I, yeah, I have a big fear of sharks, but you know what I um? First, well, the couple of things. There's a lot going on in this ADHD mind of mine. First thing is, you know, when you listen to the Cat and Moose podcast, you could be talking about Christ consciousness and you could be talking about shark consciousness, like that's how diverse we are. Sure, yeah, yeah, that's the first thing happening. Secondly, the thing that I fear more than sharks are alligators.
Speaker 4:Same, Crocodiles yeah, does that fall in the same category?
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter if they look like that and they can run the way they run. Yeah, I mean the way they just like charge at you and I just have a problem with any species crawling, unless you're an insect. Like you know, my biggest fear in every horror movie is like a child, fast crawling on their arms and legs. I mean literally, you just want me to die. Just hide in my house and do a fast crawl or have your child do it I will, I will pass out on.
Speaker 2:I may not make it. I really, because that is the scariest thing ever.
Speaker 1:Like can we just can we? Are you comfortable sitting with that for a minute?
Speaker 2:Yes, let's unpack it. I would love to unpack it. I'll take any free therapy, whether you're licensed or not for it. That's who we are.
Speaker 1:I'm just curious, like do you remember where you were, where this, this fear appeared the first time in your life?
Speaker 2:uh, the first time um, not the first time I remember the most recent.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, we can start there. That's great.
Speaker 2:It probably has something to do with those little porcelain dolls? Oh no, no, it's coming clear. Look, you just got to give space guys. Chucky, I think Chucky was the beginning of my fears. Okay, like whoever went, what is the safest thing for a child? A doll? How do we make that evil? Yes, and then the kids will want to watch the horror movies with the parents, my parents, no, let's be clear. My dad fell right into that trap. So I think chucky was the beginning, and then the most recent, sarah do you remember the name of it? Where the kids were crawling. They were, they were like they rented an airbnb me.
Speaker 2:yeah, uh or us maybe it's called us that movie us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you should watch that it does not sound creepy, it does not sound like something I need to see.
Speaker 2:So there were just children crawling yeah, the kids, the kids and teenagers, they would do like it's like a it's it's like oh, if you are not a patron, I mean you get to see me with no makeup, and it's kind of like a, like a gallop, almost. Yeah, exactly, okay, so the front legs, pull the back legs forward and they go over the front legs and that's creepy, because as humans, that's not how we walk, it's not possible yeah. So you're like, yeah, it feels demonic or otherworldly for sure yeah, very, very.
Speaker 1:It feels like neanderthal ish to me. It's like when you think of a big ape like moving, moving their body where, like their feet go first and then they move on the hands, and like that's a very like not uh evolved way of well, I guess it. I guess it's very evolved for the ape, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, who knows? Who knows what consciousness we're inside, what dimension we're in? No clue.
Speaker 1:Are we? Are we anywhere near the October surprise Are?
Speaker 2:we? Here's what I heard. Are we anywhere near the October surprise?
Speaker 1:What's funny is, that is exactly what I asked.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is where you ask me something that I have no idea your, your your active listening was on point. No, I mean maybe what is the October surprise?
Speaker 4:Okay, Sarah, did you want to say something? Same question, thank you.
Speaker 1:Same question. It just really happened even better than I thought it would. Okay. So welcome to the october surprise, which has come to mean any late breaking event with the potential to change the course of a political race. Oh yes, okay.
Speaker 1:This concept first entered america's political lexicon in 1980. The idea was born out of fear in Ronald Reagan's campaign that President Jimmy Carter would manage to win the release of 52 hostages who had been held captive in Iran for nearly a year, providing the embattled president with a significant diplomatic success. Reagan's campaign manager, bill Casey, publicly warned that Carter might be planning such an October surprise, and the campaign urged its friends in the intelligence and military communities to flag any movements that suggested a release was in the works. Of course, not only did that not happen, but the anniversary of the captivity happened to be on election eve, further reminding the country of the hostages plight. The measure of iran's distaste for carter can be measured by the fact that the hostages were released mere minutes after reagan was inaugurated. Wow, so this happened, as all great things happened in the 1980s agreed, so, so this happened in 1980.
Speaker 1:And so so what has been happening in um, you know, journalistic news sources and stuff like that, is everybody's going like we haven't gotten the October surprise yet. Like what is going to come out or what is going to happen that is going to absolutely decimate and or elevate one of our, our political candidates, Right, Yep, and and and how and if is that going to affect the election? And so I'm curious, like, can you, can you think of, like, if you had to generate an October surprise that would completely, very strongly suggest this is where things are going to go as of November 5th, Like what would you come up with?
Speaker 2:I mean, to be honest with you, I can't think of a thing that Trump hasn't done that you could say he did. Besides, maybe, murder. That would change a lot of Trump voters mind. Like, honestly, he's like been convicted of sexual assault. He's been convicted of fraud. He's been all these things.
Speaker 1:So normally I would say you know some sort of like someone accusing him of something last minute, but I mean he's like bulletproof when it comes to his fans yeah, the people, um, that I was at breakfast with this morning, um, they were saying that they felt like one thing that could really alter the course of things would be if Trump was and or is somehow in cahoots with P Diddy know, and it's like like the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO guy and like you know, it's like you know anything having to do with some sort of sexual misconduct and minors. Sure, like that might be something that that the Trump fan might go hang on a second. I I took it in a completely different direction in my mind. I was like I think that it would be a landslide if Kamala Harris, in the middle of one of her very articulate, very intelligent, dramatic monologues, were to say something like and what I would really recommend for all Americans is to listen to the Cat and Moose podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh well, that would help us, but would it help her?
Speaker 1:It could. I think it would be this like all of a sudden, this swell of See no, but these people.
Speaker 2:They would go through our podcast episodes and then they would say right here, somebody said this wrong and they would want to cancel her, and we should be canceling, endorsing us.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, kamala, if you're looking for a way out, kamala you know, I went down the pd hole for a couple days, guys, and yeah, it's insane, and it's insane how many people knew what was going on and didn't say anything. And that's usually how it goes. It is how it goes. It is how it goes Exactly when somebody controls so much of it. But I did see how you could easily go down the conspiracy theory, uh zone of the music industry, choosing who makes it and who doesn't, which is a big theory. Like you know, there's some campaign or corporation behind it all and they're like we're going to pick this person and this person you know, and these other people will give them some deals so that it looks like we didn't just pick them. But with P Diddy, like having so many relationships, it's like there's so many names out there, people that he could have taken advantage of.
Speaker 1:it's just really it goes really messed up, yeah and and I, I consider myself like I. I am a scorpio, I'm very intense, I like sex, I like talking about sex. I like you know, but, but, but. But my point is that, like, how does a person have so much sexual energy to do these things on like a consistent and regular basis, like to the point that you're doing like illegal things?
Speaker 2:Well, I I'm glad you brought this up, because I am I have a rant. I want to go on about mostly men and sexual things, okay so everyone buckle in. If you're a man, we love you. Still, you're welcome here. I know this isn't exactly what diddy's doing, but recently and this is just a warning I'm gonna talk about um, a crime that happened.
Speaker 1:If anyone wants to turn the station, we're not a station, we're a podcast we don't offer for people to turn the station much, and we've said way worse things than that. Well, okay, I know, okay so anyway, wow, okay, I know, okay.
Speaker 2:So anyway, this lady, 30 some years old, in town, very close to where my house is, running on a greenway and a man attacks her, tries to sexually assault her and then shoots her and she dies, and this is like really captured the heart of Nashville A lot of people that live near where we do.
Speaker 2:Anyway, sarah and I drove past it about two hours after it happened and it was a crime scene at that point and this is like a beautiful area of Nashville. This is not any high crime, not that that matters, but I'm just saying girl running gets attacked and shot and I I, for some reason, I think, just having been on that greenway so many times, you know, I just got angry Like at what freaking point do you? And I'm not saying these people are mentally stable, but I think there are some semi mentally stable people go, my mentally stable people go, I need to have sex so bad that I am going to go out and attack a person, just a random person, and then bring a gun and if it doesn't work out, I'm going to kill them. Like how do you get to that place in your life? And and back to Diddy, like how do you go from like look, I'm famous, I can do whatever I want to like. Oh, nobody's paying attention, I'm going to do whatever I want and start doing some really awful things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is it? Is it power? Is it chasing the high Like what?
Speaker 4:is the drive, all of it.
Speaker 1:You have to beat the last, uh, the last high climax whatever whatever that was yeah it makes me think of that new um joy, a lot of coon record and that song drugs that you yep, that you told me about oh my gosh, the drugs don't work yeah, it's like. It's like I gotta. I gotta figure out what the next thing is, because getting high doesn't get me high anymore. You know it's like, it's like I gotta I gotta figure out what the next thing is, because getting high doesn't get me high anymore.
Speaker 1:You know, and it's like I think that's the point Sarah, you know that you're making, and it's like, it's like he's got to beat the last thing. And I thought to myself, like, like, is it just that you have so much that you're like bored? It must be, it's gotta be a little bit of all of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah man, there has to be a board factor. Or I always say when people are bored, sometimes they get into trouble and there is a place you get to where you're just like listen guys like money can only buy so much, though.
Speaker 4:You know, Right, that's true. Yeah, To an extent can buy people, maybe, depending on the extent, but even even friendships. And you know, uh, opportunities, and you know, in this instance, uh, industry opportunities, fame. You know actual physical things, clothes and houses. You know that kind of stuff is manipulatively bought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, when you start to own someone, yeah, Well, and when you start creating their careers and they start depending on you and then you you expect more from them, it's really, really messed up and I would you know. Okay, so back in the I think it was the early 2000s yeah, this guy in New York was the attorney general of New York and he came after all the record labels to chase them for what is called payola. So he chased all the record labels cause they were paying radio stations to get records played. Why don't we and I'm not saying this isn't happening, but why doesn't the CIA, the FBI this isn't happening, but why doesn't the CIA, the FBI, whoever's in charge of this go and investigate these individual people who have that much power to make sure that they're using it? I mean, somebody is getting paid off here and there, right Right.
Speaker 1:Well, it kind of reminds me of our health care system, it doesn't? It's like we don't have insurance and doctors and stuff like that to help us stay. Well, we go there when something's wrong yeah, you know so it's kind of like having the fbi, fbi or the cia or whatever go and go. Hey, we just want to make sure that everything is good here. Everything is well yeah like we don't we.
Speaker 1:That's not how our society is yeah, they're not accountable right and it's like and instead it's like oh, we got to go chase the bad guys, you know, and it's like. I think what you're saying is like is there a way to prevent people from getting to that place to begin with? You know, Right.
Speaker 2:And is there? Um, so many of those issues are so taboo you don't want anyone to know. So taboo, you don't want anyone to know, right, yeah, and how do you have a safe place for people to go if they actively want to? I'm not saying everyone will, but right, right. Well, I don't want to give any pity to diddy. Um, could we end this episode with a little bit of Joy Alotikun from her new record that just came out, and the song is called Drugs, drugs.
Speaker 1:And if, like right before the theme music of our podcast kicks in, I think should be like right at the tail end of that song.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I love that here comes.
Speaker 3:Probably shouldn't be stoned. The drugs don't work. Oh, I can't get high. Oh, doctor, doctor, find me a new way to survive, survive. What happened to the good old days where you could take a hit of that good shit and feel your troubles fade away? I guess I've got to make a change. I'm not sober, I'm just over, trying to smoke away the rage. The drugs don't work. Oh, I can't get high. Oh, doctor, doctor, find me a new way to survive. And my friends don't call unless they need a ride. Oh, father, father feels like I'm barely getting by. Oh, father, father feels like I'm barely getting by. Seems like I gotta look for a new way to survive.
Speaker 3:I've been running on empty and calling it strength. I've reopened all wounds because I won't take a break. I know I've got to make a change. I won't hurt myself or go through hell trying to prove my place. The judge don't work. Get high, doctor, doctor, find me a new way to survive. And my friends don't call Unless they need a ride. Oh, for the part that feels like I'm barely getting by Seems like I gotta look for a new way to survive. All the wine and the weed Just won't heal my disease. The drugs don't work. Oh, I can't get high. Oh, doctor, doctor, find me a new way to survive. And my friends don't call Unless they need a ride. Oh, father, father, feels like I'm barely getting by. The drugs don't work. Oh, I can't get high. Oh, doctor, doctor, find me a new way to survive. And my friends don't call Unless they need me. Oh, I'm wild and proud. It feels like I'm barely getting by. Seems like I'm barely getting by. Seems like I gotta look for a new way to survive.
Speaker 4:Seems like I gotta look for a new way to survive.
Speaker 2:School break 12th break. Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find out more. Cat and Moose is a BP production.
