Kat and Moose Podcast

Rummikubs and an AI Jesus

• Kat & Moose, Producer Sara

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Ever wondered how a simple game of Rummikub could lead to heartwarming family tales and laughter? Join us as we welcome Producer Sara back to the Kat and Moose podcast, where we celebrate her birthday and share stories from Thanksgiving. From Kat's nephew's amusing attempts to mimic her playful antics to Moose's unforgettable family moment involving her sister and Sara's mom, we explore the nostalgic charm of family gatherings around a beloved oak table. Our conversations transcend mere storytelling, inviting you into a world where memories are made and cherished.

What is the distinction between being kind and being nice, and how do these choices reflect our desire to avoid conflict? Drawing inspiration from Martha Beck, we discuss the importance of staying true to oneself and setting boundaries that preserve integrity. As we ponder Chinese five element theory, we uncover the surprising ways expressing emotions like anger can lead to clarity. Our exploration takes a humorous twist with a playful debate on the pronunciation of "cesspool"—because sometimes, effective communication begins with a laugh.

In the final segment, we navigate the intricacies of communication boundaries in professional settings, the implications of a shocking news story about the UnitedHealthcare CEO, and the intriguing phenomenon of an AI-powered Jesus introduced by a Swiss church. A personal tale of healing through a unique foot treatment opens the door to galactic astrology and divine wisdom, revealing unexpected connections to the cosmos. As always, our journey is fueled by curiosity and discovery, inviting you to embrace your unique path alongside us.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.

Speaker 2:

This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Hey Cat, hey Moose, hi, sarah is back.

Speaker 1:

Sarah and block colors yes, yes, you look good, sarah, oh thank you your new age looks good on you oh well, thanks, happy birthday.

Speaker 2:

I'm much older now, more refined, thank you, yes more refined more refined, as if a diamond refined by fire. God's fire. Yes, god's fire, yes indeed. God's fire the fire of the Holy Spirit, the fire of the saints. Hey, anyone have any Thanksgiving drama? No, thank God. No, really, kat, you didn't have any.

Speaker 1:

No, oh, come on, I really don't I mean okay, yes, I do, actually I do Come on. So I have two nephews. They're both wild and awesome children. The youngest one, his name, is Caden, and Caden, over the past several visits to my mom's, has been learning how to play Rummikubes. I love that game.

Speaker 1:

With an S on the end yes, rummikube, learning how to play rummy cubes. I love that with like, with an s. Yes, rummy cube. Well, I mean, that's what I call it, is it rummy cube? I don't know, I call it, I just am adding the s. Well, rummy cube. So anyway. So he's really learning the knack and the rhythm of how to play and like what some strategies are and stuff like that. And he's six, so like, so, like. It's not, it's not refined like Sarah's diamond by fire in her, her golden age.

Speaker 1:

And so um, and so what I'll do is I'll mess with him and it is. It's so fun for me Like, for example, if you've got like a black 10, 11, 12, 13,. What I would do is I would take if I had like a black 10, I would. What I would do is I would take if I had like a black 10. I would take my black 10 and put it on top of the black 10 that's already on the board and just wait until he noticed, oh that's, and then he would be like.

Speaker 1:

He would be like Andy, do that yeah he's like you can't do that, and so I'd be like what?

Speaker 1:

And? And so it just really tickled me and so anyway, so when he would play, he's so little and my mom has this beautiful, wonderful round oak table that's been a part of our family for like centuries, you know, and so when it would be his turn to play, he would have to crawl up on top of the table and like crawl to the playing board and play his numbers or whatever, and his parents were like freaking out because like he's climbing all over the table and my mom's, of course, like I don't care, and it was just really cute. So, anyway, my mom told me that after I left they stayed for a couple more days, my sister and her family, and my mom said that after I left that when they were playing Rummy Cube together with him, that he was doing the exact same thing, that I was in the exact same way, that I was doing it, and it's like he he wanted to like kind of poke everybody and harass everybody, like Naughty Auntie did, and I just thought that was just cute as shit.

Speaker 2:

That is so cute. He was following your lead, trying to be funny. Yes, so it's drama lead trying to be funny.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so it's drama, but it's good drama.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's only because most of my family is dead that I don't have Thanksgiving drama, because I've never had a Thanksgiving without drama looking back. But so at our Thanksgiving it was me and Sarah and my sister and Sarah's mom, and Sarah's mom's name is Leslie, and I just have to say that because of what I'm about to share, and so I think it was like the first Christmas or Thanksgiving that they had met, maybe like four years ago and this. So this isn't a recent drama, but I don't think I've ever shared it, but it's funny enough and far away enough to share.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Enough time has passed it's so, um, they had met before and so there was a little bit of familiarity. And my sister's a little bit of a like jokester and she likes to poke at things like I do and um, and so you know, like her, her way of letting people know that she loves them is to kind of pick on them in a funny way. Well, I remember we were all standing around like the the middle Island in the kitchen and, um, you know, getting ready to eat or something like that, or maybe we were eating hors d'oeuvre or something like that, and, um, I guess Sarah's mom let out like a sigh or something that suggested whatever was happening Wasn't okay, happening wasn't okay. And out of my sister's mouth comes quit, your bitching, leslie. Oh wow, and I I turned thinking what is happening right now? Yeah, and Sarah's mom didn't quite get that. My sister was being playful and I just remember moaning myself and then walking out of the room like what just happened.

Speaker 2:

But I think my sister and then she just like threw a chip in her mouth, like you know what you bitching about now and um, anyway, I've wanted to make a t-shirt that says that.

Speaker 1:

Since that happened, and and did your sister get like what she was looking for? It sounds like it kind of it, kind of yeah, but I don't think she cared. I don't think she cares.

Speaker 2:

Really, that's what's great about your sister. Get like what she was looking for. It sounds like it kind of it, kind of yeah, but I don't think she cared. I don't think she cares really. That's what's great about my sister. My sister is the version of me that I want to be like. She literally does not care what people think. Wow. I mean I'm sure that she's had her moments, but she really doesn't.

Speaker 1:

You know now that you say that, I would say there's something similar between me and my sister Not the same thing. But I'm very worried and very anxious if I set a boundary or if I say no, or if I well, if I set a boundary or I say no, I worry about that, especially when it's within my family, like I'm better and better at it the further out you get. You know, I'm like, oh, I can set boundaries, great with these people out here. But it's like the closer you get to the inside, the harder it is for me to set boundaries. And my sister has absolutely no problem whatsoever setting a boundary. Really, yes, that kind of surprises me. Yes, like, for example, she'll go to my mom's and she'll say, just so you know, we're going to leave at two o'clock on Sunday, and my mom's like, great, great, you know where?

Speaker 1:

if I go to my mom's and I say I'm planning on leaving around two on Sunday, for some reason I feel like you know, like you've always been this way, like I feel, like I've disappointed the whole world and it just is fascinating to me that, like we come from the same parents with the same upbringing, just 4.7 years apart, or whatever it is 4.2 years apart and like she can seta boundary like nobody's business, like how is it that our sisters have got these qualities that we yearn for?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but what are you afraid of?

Speaker 1:

we have to coach this no, I don't want to coach this right now are you sure I'm positive, it's really timely, it feels very timely no, don't want to coach this right now, just want to talk about our sisters.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'll let you think about it, I'll let you pray about it. Um, I will say I think I'm back, oh good, uh, you want to say anything about what my sister said to your mom? No, I I. Now that I think about it, I think it is quit your bitch. And Leslie, I mean, who's someone which honestly would be a great t-shirt? Yes, well, what is the line from Lampoon's Christmas, where it's something Todd everyone's yelling in their cars right now?

Speaker 1:

It's something like and why is the carpet all wet Todd? Or something like that, I don't remember anyway, yeah, I, I say I will say that I'm not 100% sure, and this is not going to shock anybody who knows me at all. I'm not 100% sure that I've ever seen that movie.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that just makes me mad. It doesn't shock it, just, I'm just angry like it's literally my favorite movie ever.

Speaker 1:

That's not true well, you said that the Truman show was one of your favorite movies and I hadn't seen that either. You haven't seen the Truman show? Nope, never seen it, like.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you, I mean honestly, like I just feel, like you know some people go to like rehab for 30 days. I feel like you need to go to like culture rehab. Yes, if there's anybody who knows me well listening to this podcast.

Speaker 1:

They are cheering you on right now because I frustrate so many people the absolute blank stare that I have on my face when people bring up culturally relevant things, whether it's current or, you know, three or four decades ago, and it's like I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't know what's right with me so much so that I have missed, like major, major asteroids of culture.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but then there's like a part of you. I think you just might be naturally, as we know, a little bit older than me, because there are things that that you grew up with, like the never-ending story I think I grew up with, but also I was like never into. So you, you have some.

Speaker 1:

It's like there's a certain age that you just quit, though well, maybe so because, like someone said to me the other day, they were gonna blame germany, yeah, yeah I'm gonna blame the 3.7 years for our new listeners germany yeah, you have to go back, yeah, so I I lived in germany.

Speaker 1:

My dad was stationed in frankfurt, germany, um between the ages of 9 and 13, between my ages of nine and 13, between my ages of nine and 13, not my dad's Um, and and I blame most of my cultural inadequacies on living in Germany for three years and guys, it was only three years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I bet you know the German culture like those were formative years I culture, learning heard like the same four memories it was the beer truck. Yeah, yeah, there's a story about a belt. Oh my god, nobody cares about this, you guys there was a care flight all the way back to the united states?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, that was part. Yes, that was a part of it. Yeah, okay, are we getting to the United States? Yeah, yeah, that was part. Yes, that was a part of it. Yeah, hey, are we?

Speaker 2:

getting to the place where we're just repeating the same, like we're hoping new people have tuned in, Otherwise we were like all right, I could tell you that story.

Speaker 2:

I've actually listened to podcasts, but I've listened to podcasts where I have said out loud I already know this story. Yeah, me too, Me too, Um, okay, You've mentioned boundaries. I wanted to share something that I heard, uh, a wise person named Martha Beck share this week on a coach's call, and um, she was talking about boundaries and also talking about how are we integrous to ourselves, which basically means how do we not abandon ourselves by being our truest selves. And so she said it's not until you know what you know, feel what you feel, say what you mean and do what you really want that you will find wholeness Come on Like.

Speaker 1:

that deserves a like.

Speaker 2:

And then she said that is integrity, and you can't do it when you're dropping your boundaries. Wow, yeah, it's so good. And then I, right before we started, I always draw a card before the podcast. This is my card. If you're a patron, you can see it. It is a polar bear and it says tell the truth. It's out of sarah sidleman's card pack called how good are you willing to let it get? And uh, this is what it says be honest with yourself. It is the foundation of everything. Commit lovingly to a strict, no bullshit policy. Did you say what you meant to say? Is this crazy how this shit just shows up? Are you doing what you said to do? If the answer is no, don't judge. Be kindly curious. Instead, if you've been out of integrity with yourself, ask yourself why. Okay, can I?

Speaker 1:

just point out that when you said, don't judge, be kindly curious about yourself. Both sarah and I had a visceral reaction. What did that look like? We both went that's really.

Speaker 2:

I don't think we can be kind to other people unless we are kind to ourselves.

Speaker 1:

I completely disagree, I agree.

Speaker 2:

I think you can fake it but, that's exhausting.

Speaker 1:

I still disagree. Why? Because I'm really kind to everybody you are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Are you just doing that for? Am I just doing it? For what you cracked yourself up? That is what almost came out of my mouth for affection connection.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah, because this is what, how you believe that I do, you believe that?

Speaker 2:

all of my acts are not true. A bid I'm really asking. You're creating a story. Oh my god, the demons are coming out of her eyes. Okay, but why are we nice that? That is that's my point is why are we nice.

Speaker 1:

I guess it is all just for an emotional bit, for connection all right, let's, let's stop.

Speaker 2:

I apologize. I at least finished and told you what came into my mind. I wasn wasn't trying to be an asshole. I'm apologizing. Okay, rather than apologizing, I would like to say I'm sorry. Thank you, you're welcome. Okay, here is my question why are we nice? Being kind is one thing, but nice feels different to me. Yeah, great question.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that, like I think that I'll speak for myself, I think that for the most part, dissonance is uncomfortable for me. I don't like disharmony, I don't like dissonance, I don't like conflict. And the reality is I was just thinking about this this morning, about how I'm thinking about kind of changing my communication style a little bit with one of my clients and I thought about teaching this person a little bit about Chinese five element theory and how, if we can get angry and vent about something and actually have a container for that, instead of just like bursting into, like rantville, if we can say like, okay, we're going to create a container to rant about this thing, that that is indicative of wood energy. Wood energy is represented by bursting forth, by by helping. It's the energy that helps the dandelion burst up from the earth in the spring. You know, it helps the tree grow and the flower grow, and all of that If, if that, if that extreme emotion associated with wood is anger or frustration, what is what happens in the natural cycle of life is that after the anger comes clarity of vision, right.

Speaker 1:

And so if we, if we can say, okay, we're going to have a container, we're going to get angry right now. We're going to have conflict right now, or we're going to, you know, talk about a difficult thing right now, knowing that on the other side of it, the goal is to have clarity of vision. Yeah, that to me feels like productive. Yeah, that to me feels like productive. Conflict, that to me feels like productive dissonance or discord or whatever. And so for me, like I kind of period, so I don't like discord or or discontentment or disharmony, and I also really am learning to see the value in it. And so I think the reason that I am nice is I don't want to have conflict, and what I'm realizing is that if I, if I absolve myself of having any conflict, then I might not ever have clarity of vision.

Speaker 2:

Right, well, and also I think that goes for any emotion is like if you aren't expressing it, then you're containing it, and that's like a cesspool of dirty water.

Speaker 1:

Did you say cesspool?

Speaker 2:

Yes, with a cesspool.

Speaker 1:

Is it a cesspool? It's kind of like with a T or an E-D Cess, cess C-E-S's kind of like with a T or an E-D, cest, cest, c-e-s-t. I know it's not a T.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's how you spell cesspool.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it is, you're right. You're right, I'm sorry, wow.

Speaker 2:

Wait, what the hell is Kat yelling at or laughing at? It's kind of like when you made fun of me saying ruby cubes, I'm making fun of you saying cesspool. What is it? I think it's a cesspool cess. What did I say cest? Oh, I thought it was cest. I mean, it's not spelled that way, but I thought that's how you pronounce it let me show you how I'm going to represent your modeling for me.

Speaker 2:

Moose, uh-huh, moose, I'm sorry oh, you don't have to apologize. I enjoy that kind of love that feels like love to me. Okay, Wait, back to the conflict or the rant. I would like to share something. My new thing is, if people are going on too long and they're giving me too much backstory not in personal relationships, cause that would not go well, but in work relationships if someone is just hooting and hollering about something that I don't have time for, I get quiet pretty quick. If it's on the phone, they generally say are you still there? And I go yeah, I'm still here, and then I go. Can I ask you something?

Speaker 2:

Try to jump in real quick. And then I say what ask you something? Try and jump in real quick. And then I say what do you want to do? Because I feel like a lot of rants are not in the action-oriented side of your brain or whatever. I don't know the brain science of it, but it's just this somebody hurt my feelings is what it comes down to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well it and I get, and I think that's why I'm I'm considering a bit of a shift in how I communicate with this particular client, because that's what I tend to do and it doesn't work. I go okay okay okay, you're frustrated.

Speaker 1:

What do you want to do about it? And what I'm learning is that the energy needs to move, and then that's when I feel like my job kicks in and goes okay, you don't get off free to just rant and then peace out. Now we're going to go toward what is the action, what is the thing that we are going to do with this thing? But if I'm intentional about holding space for the rant time, I can jump in there and rant too. I've got plenty to bitch about about what goes on in our work world, you know, and so to me, it's one of those things where I'm thinking of it as maybe something to move the cycle along into doing, because it's like, once you're in that fire element, then you're in, you're like, ah, most authentic, most awesome self and can do, do, do, be, be, be and et cetera, et cetera, you know.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know, that's cool. Yeah, I really like the wood element thing that you described. Thank you, um. Can I ask more questions about boundaries, though? Yes, what is a boundary that you guys probably couldn't share, but would like to say to people like, for instance, when you were talking about um holding that container for someone, my first thought is for how long, like that was literally my thought and what's interesting is when I was first starting my coaching practice, I you know they always try and get you in tune with yourself so you can find your right price and your right amount of time.

Speaker 2:

And you know, some coaches are coaching 45 minutes a session and some are doing an hour and a half, and I know it's the same in your modality as well, and you're supposed to like, sit with yourself and go. How long is it's too long? What's the right amount? All that and it's funny because I I do want to set boundaries with my time is what I would say to that question that I asked you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I love that you answered your own question. That's fantastic. I think that that is kind of like a form of self coaching, like self therapy, like that's brilliant. Yeah, the thing that I would say is respond to my outreach. The thing that I would say is respond to my outreach.

Speaker 1:

It pisses me off to high heaven when I text someone or email someone or call someone and I get no response. I understand, like, if you don't have the answer to my question and I'm guilty of this too there's a friend that sent me a text message last week that I still haven't responded to, and it's something that's super long term. So in that, in that regard, I don't feel bad about not responding to that immediately. But when I'm like you know, hey, I'd like some feedback about a client that I have a thing about, and it's like there's just no response like that, that really upsets me. Or hey, can you do an interview at this time of day? And it's just like no response, like that makes me crazy. And so I would love to set a boundary, saying, if I reach out to you and and ask you something and or ask you to do something or ask for a response, like, please just do me the dignity of responding back.

Speaker 2:

But honestly, like if we go into the whole thing of there's your business, their business and God's business, what is your boundary? What? I'll go into that later. I thought we've talked about that. We've talked about that.

Speaker 1:

I do not think I've ever heard that in my lifetime.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, let's cover that in a moment.

Speaker 1:

Let me say this you just dropped the God bomb and want to move on, I will drop the God bomb.

Speaker 2:

Well, my point is there's only so much you can do. That is your business, then it's their business. So okay, so say this happens you send an email to whoever I need this information. Your boundary is what If they don't get back to you? You're not chasing them. Your boundary is what if they don't?

Speaker 1:

get back to you. You're not chasing them. Um no, my boundary is that I, just I.

Speaker 2:

I expect a response okay, but that's out of your business. Your business is to pass it along to them huh, that's very interesting. Like. At the end of the day, it's really their responsibility to do with what you've passed along. I think huh, Okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, how do I set a boundary around this thing that I need? What is it that you need? I need a damn response. Well, you can't, you can't you can't control them.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so if you don't get the response, then what? That's how you set your boundary. Then what? Let's assume that you send this. You didn't get a response. Later they get upset that something wasn't taken care of, but they never responded. Then what would you say?

Speaker 1:

um, what I would like. Maybe that's the boundary. What I would like to say is I didn't get a response, so I haven't completed that task or I haven't followed that like that. But that feels passive, aggressive to me.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, it's not passive, aggressive, it's clear. Well, now, that would be an interesting topic because at some point, your responsibility is to pass something along. Right, right, right. Yeah, I feel like you don't want to talk about this anymore.

Speaker 1:

No, I do. No, I'm happy to talk about it. I think that I think that I'm talking about something that is really genuinely frustrating to me, and I want to understand how to help myself. Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2:

Um, can I bring up a few news report items that we need to cover Absolutely. I love when you bring up news items, Okay great Well, first, how much are you following on this UnitedHealthcare CEO being shot in New York City?

Speaker 1:

Believe it or not, I actually know about it. You do. That's fantastic. Yes, I, yes, I actually know that it happened and I thought it was really, um, I found it interesting, and not that I think they should have done anything different, but I thought it really interesting that they still went on with the lighting of the tree the same night.

Speaker 2:

I thought the same thing. I was really surprised that they didn't, you know. But I guess because they thought it was a targeted attack, they didn't think there was. But I mean, if I was a tourist in town state, I mean I know where that Hilton is, we've all stayed up there and yeah, I was just really surprised it happened.

Speaker 2:

And then the um on the bullets it was written delay, deny and defend. Did you hear about that? No, which I didn't know what that meant. So I looked it up and it's a reference to strategies that insurance companies use to try and avoid paying claims. Really, yes, so you know, it could go a million different ways. It could be for hire shooter, it could be someone whose family member didn't get the coverage that they. I don't know, but it is fascinating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was my thing is is I thought when, when I heard about it, my immediate thought is you know what? Somebody denied someone's MRI or PET scan or CT scan or something because it wasn't done in the order that the insurance company wanted it, and then said person, you know, either got sick or became deceased or whatever it was, and in said person's person was pissed. It's like how many times have we needed to file something to insurance, or we needed a procedure or something but had to go through the motions, you know, just because of of what, what the policy says, and then it's like well, now my cataract is so bad that I'm blind, you know, it's like if I could have gotten it taken care of, yeah, that was pretty bad example, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like it made me kind of think like that's probably exactly what happened if the whole thing is very bizarre that in the middle of New York City you can get away with that with as many. And now, granted you know, maybe by the time this airs he will have been caught. I hope so. Great news guys. They got the guy Just such a weird story.

Speaker 1:

It is such a weird story and at the end of the day, it's like murder's not okay, like I don't care what your reason is, it's like murder is not okay.

Speaker 2:

So it's like absolutely that needs to be brought to justice, like like it or not and just on the on the subject of death, this is the next one I would like to share right here. Um, you want to read the?

Speaker 1:

headline. Oh yes, I love this kind of thing. Man found dead in planet fitness tanning bed three days after entering indianapolis gym. Wow, yeah, three days. That lets you know how often they clean those things.

Speaker 2:

That's what? Exactly what I thought. I was like are you kidding me and I go to planet fitness? I was like oof. But yeah, a lot of people have a lot of thoughts and somebody said who is still using tanning beds oh, it looks like he was an employee there who had a substance abuse problem. A needle was still in his arm when they found him. That is awful, wow. Well, he must have needed somewhere to sleep.

Speaker 1:

God bless him when, then, it said, the ankle monitor he wore alerted them to the fact that he never left work, what?

Speaker 2:

after three days, that's the only way they found him.

Speaker 1:

Good grief.

Speaker 2:

So definitely don't use the tanning beds at Planet Fitness.

Speaker 1:

In Indianapolis specifically.

Speaker 2:

And then I think you're going to like this one, kat, on the news update.

Speaker 1:

All right, give us a read Okay, a church in Switzerland is using AI powered Jesus for spiritual conversations.

Speaker 2:

Wow, this one blew my mind, okay, so this is from Business Bulls, a small church in Lucerne. Maybe. Switzerland has made headlines for installing an AI-powered Jesus in its confessional booth, offering visitors the chance to converse with a digital avatar of Jesus in 100 languages. Wow, this innovative installation named Deuce in Machina was launched as part of a collaboration between peter's chapel and a local university research lab. It aims to explore how people interact with an ai representation of jesus and to understand if there's an interest in conversing with such an avatar.

Speaker 1:

Huh, the church, known for being one of the oldest in Lucerne, is that how you would say that I think it's Lucerne, but I don't know for sure. That's what I meant.

Speaker 2:

That's what I meant Made the bold decision to replace the priest with a computer setup in the confessional Wow, after training the AI on theological texts, visitors could ask the digital Jesus questions, receiving real-time answers generated by artificial intelligence. The experience was not intended to replace a confession, but to offer a space for personal reflection and spiritual interaction. Users were reminded not to share personal information and were made aware they were speaking to an avatar to share personal information and were made aware they were speaking to an avatar.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's interesting to me that that this would be viewed as anything other than just like normal though, because, like I was watching a commercial on tv the other night, and I think it was for is the google phone called the pixel, pixel 16 or something like that. Um, they were basically saying advertising, like hey, this new version of the google phone is has got fully integrated ai, and they were giving examples of how to use it, and one of the examples that they gave is someone to have a conversation with.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I have a friend who asks AI all the time different things and and has enjoyed the process of it, like you know. Not like to replace a friend, but to like get curious, I guess. Well, to me that's one thing.

Speaker 1:

Like it's one thing to be curious and go how well does AI answer a question that I would ask a friend? Like that to me feels like a legitimate curiosity in a day and age where you can ask a computer something and feel like it's giving you a personal response and then potentially make decisions based on that response. Like that to me feels scary. That feels like scary land.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see what you mean. I do think you might need some counsel before you do that. Yeah, because, like, at what point does the Jesus AI, for instance, become like a fortune teller on Atlantic city boardwalk? Right, right, yeah, yeah, did you see that movie?

Speaker 1:

big. Do you know that movie? I do know that movie, believe it or not. Like I actually know that movie and I remember being so creeped out by the little um, what's the guy that was in the booth?

Speaker 2:

Uh, oh yeah, I was too. Was he like a wizard, like a czar?

Speaker 1:

or yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I actually know that movie it's zoltar um, can I tell you about my latest tiktok algorithm? Yes, uh, so I was on the cancer journeys, I don't know why. And then now I am watching people who have remote viewed into the future, like for the CIA. Do you know what that means? I don't know what that means Remote viewed.

Speaker 1:

How does that work?

Speaker 2:

Well, from what I'm learning this lady, she was hired basically as a. She would say you're not much different than a psychic, but remote viewing is like more of a physical going to another time or place, and apparently the CIA hires people like that, and I don't know if this is true.

Speaker 1:

By the way, oh, it reminds me of that that show that Patricia Arquette is in. I think it's called Medium or something like that and it's like she helps them solve crimes. Yeah, yeah, medium or something like that, and it's like she helps them solve crimes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. So apparently this is the idea, is that it's to prevent crimes from happening by looking ahead? Huh, so then I I have a little bit of that and I also have, um, this lady in there who said he said that some interdimensional beings, um, after she got to like heaven or whatever, asked her to go back to earth, and she said this is why we're here is to help, like, save the earth and to love it back to healing. Um and so, um, yeah, I just wanted to give an update of where my Tik TOK reel is going and if you guys wonder why I'm so weird.

Speaker 1:

This is why I'm a magnet for this stuff it's a, it's a part of your, your um, your cellular composition. It's like it's just, it's a part of who you are. It's it's how the universe has has created you as a magnet. Mine is not because I don't look at tikt much, but mine is Facebook and I go on Facebook for maybe five minutes a day. It's like I like to look at the golden retrievers, like that's kind of what I go and look at. And my algorithm because I did click on something and buy something. My algorithm now is plantar fasciitis.

Speaker 1:

I have been spoon fed every cure for hurting feet and it's like they're all money back guaranteed, this time only, not ever sold on Amazon. Watch this video about this brilliant doctor who, after he retired, he decided to come back and heal everybody's feet. And I'm'm like guys, if this shit was working, like it wouldn't be all over the internet like this, like we would all just be doing it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know. So now I know like six different devices and spent about $600.

Speaker 2:

So tried it anyway, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I got bamboozled.

Speaker 2:

How is your foot and how is your journey to?

Speaker 1:

healing. Oh, thank you for asking. My foot is different and I really want to celebrate that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, how so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I went to a place called Maxwell Clinic here in Nashville and I underwent a procedure called PRP. It was prolotherapy and PRP and prolotherapy and PRP are very similar. The PRP is protein rich plasma and so the thought of it is that they basically take what your body uses naturally for healing and they concentrate it and they inject it into injured areas and it basically says swell up, get real inflamed, as if you've been injured again, and then all this plasma is going to go. Oh, there's an injury and they go in and they try to help heal it. So it's like taking what your body naturally does and kind of giving it superfood is kind of a way to look at it. And so I went and received my first of these treatments and I had 12 different shots in my foot. That was not fun, that was not fun.

Speaker 2:

Did you take a photo Like were they all in at the same time?

Speaker 1:

No gosh, I wish they were. I wish it could have just been all like you know, like a giant version of acupuncture. That would have been fantastic, that's a really good idea, Sarah.

Speaker 2:

So wait a minute, hold on, hold on. So these needles going in are supposed to make your foot feel like it's injured.

Speaker 1:

The needles that go in inject dextrose, which is sugar, and sugar is what makes Do they know? You're diabetic, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's localized, believe me. I asked because I was like, if this is going to jack up my blood sugar, I need to know. And so, anyway. So basically, sugar causes inflammation. That's why we're encouraged to not eat a lot of sugar, because it causes our bodies to be inflamed. And so they inject sugar and lidocaine to go.

Speaker 1:

The body thinks there's an injury in the lidocaine to kind of to kind of numb it up. And then the next shot that they do is the PRP, it's the protein rich plasma. And so the plasma comes in and says, oh my gosh, there's been an injury here, we're going to, we're going to work to help heal it. And so what I did is I went and had this procedure and then, by my own accord, I got my boot from when I hurt my foot originally back about four years ago, and I've been wearing my boot ever since to really love and protect my foot and to keep it really immobile and stabilized, like I went on a trip to chicago this week and I wore it for 48 hours, like I had it on the whole time and my foot feels different, huh like good, different, like it's not very.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting. It's kind of like, um, if the paint in my foot was a shade of red, now it's burgundy and I feel like it's moving on to like orange. You know, it's like there's just a slight I don't know what those color key.

Speaker 1:

I need a color key okay, um, I'm just trying to say that, like the, the pain and the discomfort is still there, but it's different. I can tell that it's changing and so it's not like my oh, my foot's healed. I have no pain, cause I still have pain but there was maybe some progress.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's some progress that's been made, and so so I'll do this treatment once every four to six weeks, about three times, and at that point in time we're going to kind of see like that that's kind of probably as good as it's going to get for me, and so, um, so I still have almost a month as as this continues to heal, cause I just had it done like a week ago Um and so, yeah, that's the update on my foot. I'm very excited about it and I would like to become a spokesperson for protein rich plasma.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we should do that. I'll be a spokesperson for ketamine. Perfect. They do ketamine at that clinic too.

Speaker 1:

They I need, I need to look them up I need to google.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes. Well, it sure has been fun catching up with y'all. Sarah, you got anything to say? You disappeared there for a minute. Sorry, I had a little incident I needed to care for. It's okay, nothing to report here.

Speaker 1:

Well, I've got a little bit more to report because you know I am the eternal scholar, and so yes, sorry to interrupt. Well, no, there's no interruption here, I'm just, you know, I just want to just do a quick this little flash of whatever the heck that is.

Speaker 2:

Is that the, the spaceship from Star Wars?

Speaker 1:

It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it? This is my natal birth chart. Flash of whatever the heck that is. Is that the spaceship from Star Wars? It's kind of what it looks like, isn't it? This is my natal birth chart. Oh yeah, do tell. According to the stars. And so, I had a galactic astrology reading last week, and I was so inspired by it that now I have made it my life's mission to also learn about astrology.

Speaker 2:

And so, Lord, I can't wait. I would love to hear about that Galactic.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's here's what made it. Galactic is apparently um, astrology is one thing. It's like okay, let's look at the stars, let's look at how that corresponds with your sun sign, your rising sign, your moon sign, blah, blah, blah, blah and um, and that's all fine and good. Well, this galactic astrology kind of takes that and makes it three dimensional. Is the way that I like to look at it. And so when you have someone who is an uh, astrology person quote unquote, is an astrology person quote unquote reading your chart, you can go into the field with them, you can go in.

Speaker 1:

So this is like a remote viewing. It kind of is yeah, it's kind of very, it's very similar and according to this different perspective on astrology, it has to do with there are four major black holes in the Milky Way and inside of these black holes, because they have absorbed so much over billions and billions of years, these black holes are viewed as having divine wisdom. And in your galactic chart and your regular astrological chart, you'll find that it's possible that your chart intersects with one or more of these black holes and if it does, then it's basically saying to you you have the ability, you have like a shortcut to divine wisdom. And so when my chart was read, what the?

Speaker 2:

She said oh no, I found another black hole.

Speaker 1:

That's exactly what happened in the podcast. No, what she said the person who did the reading is. She said your chart aligns with not one, not two, but three of the black holes, and she was like so from my perspective, she's like you have a like direct line to really download divine wisdom, and that seems pretty cool, you know. And so ever since then, it's like I felt like someone gave me a permission slip to believe in myself, that I can connect with the divine.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, that's a big deal. It is a big deal. And also, I will write you a permission slip daily via AI, if you want me to, because you are special and you don't need to be told you're connected to three damn black holes for you to believe it. Right right Isn't?

Speaker 1:

that ridiculous. It's like well we all do it. Yeah, we all do it. So, yeah, so, anyway, this is what we like to call a teaser on the Cat and Moose podcast. We're going to be talking a lot more astrology with Cat and, just like everything I just said probably had 13 mistakes in it, but was somewhat near the truth, this will be about the same You'll get to follow on our learning journey.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're a curiosity podcast, not an educational one. Yeah, you know what to expect here. All right, we love you. Know what to expect here, all right, we love you guys. Thanks for listening. Bye everyone, have a great week. Bye everyone.

Speaker 1:

Special thanks to our producer, sarah Reed, to find out more, go to catandmoosepodcastcom.

Speaker 2:

Cat and Moose is a BP Production.

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