Kat and Moose Podcast
Kat and Moose Podcast is a true-life podcast exploring the quirks of being human. We bring hilarious anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions about spirituality, mental health, personal growth, bodywork, midlife, relationships, self-care, and more!
Join hosts Kat, Moose, and Producer Sara as they dive deep into various topics: spirituality, mental health, mid-life questions, relationships, bodywork, poetry, loving ourselves, and living our most authentic lives. We also sprinkle in some enneagram and five-element theory because why not? We work in the music industry in Nashville, which also gets dabbled in.
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Love, Loss, and Juror Tales
Imagine being a juror on a high-profile murder trial, immersed in the legal drama while carrying the weight of justice on your shoulders. We welcome Producer Sara back after recently serving on a murder trial in Chattanooga, Tennessee. She shares her compelling experience and about her new podcast, "SEQUESTERED," which offers a gripping, firsthand look at the trial and the profound impact it had on her. With Moose's help, Sara sheds light on the trial, and invites you to explore the intense world of courtroom deliberations through a juror's eyes.
As we mark five years of podcasting, we reflect on life's unpredictable journey, sharing poignant tales of love, loss, and resilience. Kat opens her heart about personal losses, recounting stories of her Uncle T and Uncle Don, which remind us all of the inevitability of mortality and the profound connections that bind us to family. These reflections underscore the enduring comfort family provides during times of grief and the unique ways each of us navigates the path of healing from loss.
We also explore the emotional landscapes we traverse when anniversaries of loss come around, acknowledging how our bodies often harbor memories that surprise us. Through amusing anecdotes of mistaken celebrity identities and serendipitous encounters—like mistaking a fellow traveler for Brené Brown or meeting Louis Armstrong's daughter—we're reminded of the unpredictable nature of human connections. And, amidst these heartfelt discussions, we dive into lighter debates, such as the whimsical act of knitting gifts for strangers' babies during flights, bringing a touch of humor to our heartfelt conversation.
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Welcome to the Cat and Moose podcast. I'm Cat and I'm Moose.
Speaker 2:This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human. Hey Cat, hey Moose, hey Sarah, Hi, hey girl, Hi girl, oh hey.
Speaker 1:Welcome back. I like your name today Producer Sarah, juror number 11. Thank you. Do you want to tell the world about your podcast?
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, last time I was on this screen in front of me of people and your speakers, I was just about to walk into jury duty and I had no idea what was going to come out of that. But in a matter of two days, I was selected to be sequestered on a jury in Chattanooga, tennessee, and I served as one of 16 jurors on a murder trial, and it was wild. And so I jurors on a murder trial, and it was wild. And so I, of course, came home and dove into telling that story. Nice, so, yeah. So I am working hard, hard on trying to turn the podcast quickly, just so that it's, you know, relevant and timely to the trial and also still just being fresh on my mind, anyway, so Moose has been a huge, huge part of that, because she's basically researching every little bit and detail and clip and writing it with me. And, yeah, so can I show you the trailer? Yes, oh my gosh, I'd love to see it. It's just audio, but I would love to share it with you and our listeners.
Speaker 1:Yes, I would love to hear it and I think I can speak for our listeners. They would too.
Speaker 2:Okay, great, all right, everybody. It's called sequestered. Here we go.
Speaker 3:On a cold November night, jasmine Pace disappeared. Days later her lifeless body was found and a community was left in shock.
Speaker 5:It's a story that struck the nation. In November, 22-year-old Jasmine Pace was reported missing by her mother, and less than one week later her body was found, police say at the hands of her boyfriend, jason Chen.
Speaker 3:I was called to serve on the jury in the murder trial of the state of Tennessee versus Jason Chin, who was accused of taking Jasmine's life. Over nine days, I witnessed the unraveling of a horrifying story, one that I will never forget.
Speaker 6:This is the suitcase in which Jason Chin stuffed the 98-pound body of Jasmine Pace.
Speaker 3:This is Sequestered, a juror's perspective on the murder trial for Jasmine Pace, a podcast that takes you inside the courtroom, behind closed doors, and into the heart of a trial that captivated the town of Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Speaker 4:Friends say she was the person you called, no matter what time of day it was. They say she was always there. They say her personality was so magnetic people couldn't help but gravitate towards her.
Speaker 3:Each episode will walk you through one day of the trial. I'll share my experience as a juror and how I grappled with the weight of the evidence, the responsibility of the verdict and sentencing, and honoring Jasmine's story.
Speaker 6:Victims matter. Jasmine Pace is not just some girl listed in an autopsy report. She is not the photos that you have seen. Don't minimize her to a name on an indictment. She's a person. She had family that loved her, she was a friend, she was a granddaughter. Please don't minimize this trial to the trial for him.
Speaker 3:Join us as we explore the crime, the trial and the profound impact of Jasmine Pace's story.
Speaker 6:I want you to remember this trial as the trial for Jasmine Pace.
Speaker 3:This is Sequestred a juror's journey, a victim's voice and the pursuit of truth. Subscribe now.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I'm over here clapping and I want to say that I think that whoever produced that trailer is a genius.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much You're welcome.
Speaker 2:I've never seen Sarah work so hard on a project. It's been really cool to see.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Yeah, no, it's been really a passionate project for me. It's been an interesting way for me to process everything, because I couldn't do do it. You know, the days of the trial I had my head had to be in the game, and I'll explain in the first episode how, like, we really couldn't even talk to each other about it until the deliberation phase, so information just had to be stored in my head and on paper until we could talk about it. So processing the emotional side of it was not really a huge option until, like, maybe, the hotel room which by then I was like I don't want to think about any of this, I just want to, like, go and, you know, do whatever, go to sleep. So anyway, it was really quite an experience. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1:Wow Well like I said before the trial, I don't think that they could ask for a better juror than you, and so I know there were other jurors and I'm really glad that you were a part of that process and I have so many questions about it. But I feel like I want to wait and listen to the podcast and see if my questions are answered and then, if they're not, I want to. I want to ask questions, but I also don't want to. I don't want to unveil your thunder early. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no. I'm happy Like we need a whole just group session anyway, because I know there's a couple of us that either watch the trial the whole time, like Moose did, she watched every second of it from like online every second, but I I tried to go back if I missed anything to watch it because it really was a fascinating, very devastating trial.
Speaker 2:But I became pretty uh, connected to it after a few like minutes of watching the trial, because you can't believe another human would do that to someone Right. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:So if you guys think to, please go listen to the trailer again, follow the podcast and or subscribe, or whatever the kids are calling it these days. We're hoping to get that thing released very soon. It's called sequestered. Yeah, it's called sequestered.
Speaker 1:And will you do like some of the streaming services and release everything at once for like mass, like addiction, consumption, or will you release one episode at a time and make us wait? Like I know, there are strategies in both.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Great question Do you want to answer Ms?
Speaker 2:Well, I think what is going to happen on February 10th? Three episodes are going to drop and then it's going to come out every Monday. There'll be a new episode after that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cool. So there'll be seven episodes that follow and, yeah, the idea is that it goes in sequential order, from the first episode being my jury duty and selection, and then each day of the trial thereafter, and so the goal has been for us to write it from my perspective. So, as the trial unfolded, I didn't know a dang thing, like a single thing, about it going into it. So the whole thing had to be told to us, you know, and revealed to us. So that's kind of how I'm trying to tell it, while filling in some context, you know. But I'm really trying to tell it for real and like we're I mean, she's been amazing at researching and fact checking and just making sure we're like saying it right, not trying to get ahead of it, not trying to use, you know, other people's opinions or stuff. So, yeah, anyway, it's been cool, it's been an interesting process. I've never done a documentary style podcast and what do you think? This is True, very true. I was.
Speaker 3:This is real time what's happening in our lives. This is a reality show.
Speaker 2:It's more of reality TV.
Speaker 1:Like I was thinking about our podcast today, after Moose and I were texting a little bit, and I was thinking about our podcast and I was going, like you know, like is it okay that it's just kind of super like, woo way, like in the flow, like going with you know, whatever we talk about and in whichever direction things go, or should we like really try to tighten it up? And should we try to do like like some other podcasts and go like okay, well, we're going to interview people and we're going to ask smart questions and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? And then I thought you know what Like, like we have engaged with a really beautiful community of listeners and I I don't want to lose you guys.
Speaker 5:And so.
Speaker 1:I think that part of the reason you're here is that you like what you're hearing and so it makes me go don't change it. Like don't don't change it and and you know cause I was. What led me to that thought process today is Moose was texting me, just asking me how I was doing and I was driving and I was stuck in in like what felt like rush hour traffic, but it wasn't rush hour and I just started crying Like I just started crying.
Speaker 1:I just was having these big like turtle tears and I was like what if I cry on the podcast? Is it okay to cry on the podcast? Does anybody listening care if I cry on the podcast? And I was like, who cares? Like like it's just the thing that we've been doing, and we've been doing it consistently now, or semi consistently, for a really long time.
Speaker 1:And I just want to say, like I am proud of you Sarah, I am proud of you Moose, I am proud of you Kat, Like you guys have done a great, great job at sticking with this.
Speaker 2:Well, so have you, kat. It's funny because, um, speaking of um, podcasting and marketing and things like that, um, I was thinking the other day. I was like one of the interesting things about why I think it's so hard to actually market the cat and moose podcast is because it's about everything to your point. You know, it's like seinfeld, it's like you can't really go. Oh, yes, we dabble in mental health and, yes, we dabble in, uh, body work things, and you know all the different things that we talk about, um, but ultimately, I feel like it's really about everything we're walking through, right, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. It's about life, and I was listening to our intro recently and hearing you say moose, um, the cat moose podcast is about the quirks of being human and I was like, is that interesting? And I was like, well, apparently we think it is, because we've been talking about it for years now. Yeah, you know, like what? What is the human experience, like what? What are the quirks of being human? And and that is what it's about. And and yes, that's super broad strokes and it also like has these moments of being really pointed to you know where it's like we talk about everything from, like you know, death to life, to politics, to, you know, work, all the things, and and our listeners are doing all those things too you know, like they're experiencing their own version of that. So, while it may be hard to market, it's not hard to love.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's good, we need t-shirts that say that. Hey, and speaking of, uh, we're actually. I was going through my calendar today putting in some work stuff and I realized in just over two weeks will be our five-year anniversary of the release of our first episode.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Yeah, be your own snowman Five years. We're going to pop some bubbly for that Woo so. Kat can you tell us about your tears and how your life has been, because I know there have been some bumps lately and I would like to hear about them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I certainly can. So Earlier in 2024, my Uncle T passed away. He had been kind of deteriorating health-wise for the past couple of years and none of us really knew how much, because he was very reclusive, he was very to himself and every now and then my mom would go pick him up and be like you are going with us to a family reunion, like you are going with us to go grocery shopping or whatever it is. He lives a few hours away from from the rest of my family and so anyway. So so in the days leading up to him passing away, we were at the hospital a lot and experienced a lot of things for the first time. Some of us did.
Speaker 1:Some of us have experienced that over and over for the first time. Some of us did. Some of us have experienced that over and over. But for some of our family it was like, wow, that's the first time that I have been in a room with a person not living, or been in a room when a person passes over, and you know like there was just a lot of new and unique and unusual circumstances around all of that. And um, just a few days ago my mom's oldest brother, don um, passed away and he was 91 years old and like wow, to say that you've lived 91 years like gosh, it's like like, yeah, me too. And it's like, well, how did he die? It's almost kind of like dude he lived in 91.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, it's like he can die however he wants to and my understanding is that his passing was very peaceful and he was in a wonderful hospice environment and had family around him. And it's been a little weird because my mom's family they had eight siblings, her parents had eight kids and two of her siblings passed at a relatively young age, like the one passed away from a heart condition, very young.
Speaker 1:And then another one passed away from cancer at 19 years old also very young and then over the years, you know, people have passed, you know for for various reasons and at various times, and at this juncture now, the only two living siblings on the maternal side of my family are my mom and my aunt. Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Mary Mac, yeah Mary.
Speaker 6:Mac.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, mary, mac and my mom are the last two siblings and of course, they're women. They're awesome, they've outlived all the dudes, because women are just better in my opinion. Love you, chris, obviously Love you, our male listeners. And and also, like I think women are just awesome. And so it also like brings the the topic that humanity has had to deal with forever and ever and ever, of like we're all mortal, like there is no, there is no like escaping that, at least in this body, in this place, in this soul, like this body is going to no longer exist at some point, you know, and it's like, while that is like a piece of data, because of attachment, because of love, because of relationship, because of how humans work together, it's like that's a really hard thing when somebody leaves, when somebody dies, even if they are quote-unquote, going to a better place, because none of us know where they're going. We have a lot of beliefs about it, we have superstitions about it, I know. Well, I'm glad, I'm glad. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that you know, and in the trifecta, the trilogy, the what's it called the Trinity.
Speaker 2:Star Wars. Oh, trinity the trinity star wars. Oh well, trinity or star wars, moose, you are god, so you do know, you know, but but no, I'm not god, I just know where we're going, oh okay, yeah, I was trying to make a complimentary connection there, because you're the holy spirit right, right yeah I know you're jesus and sarah's the holy spirit something like that have had.
Speaker 1:We've had this discussion a hundred times. Our listeners are bored now.
Speaker 1:So, um, so, anyway, my, my uncle, don, passed away um recently and I just got back yesterday from the private family viewing of his body. How do you feel about that? Um, it was, it was, uh, it was hard, it was important. It was really really important to me to be a support to my other family members and it was really really important for my other family members to be a support to me. Yeah, and, and it was, it was nice to have that support amidst a really really sad thing. And then I think also, like what I was alluding to before, is that, like, there's only two left, and my mom and my aunt, who are the people I am the closest to, are the two left, so when, when somebody passes, it's going to be one of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, and it's like that's that just comes with a lot of gravity and it comes with a lot of like what am I doing with my life, like, how am I loving my people? Well, like all of that, and, and you know, even though I've dealt with death throughout life, you know, my dad passed away 23 years ago and, and you know, we've had mutual, been kind of like, just kind of like okay, like this is reality and I can't control it. I cannot control it whatsoever.
Speaker 2:I think that's the best recognition, though, because I think, when we're living in reality, uh, I think that that is the most precious thing we can do is to be like oh, it is, yeah, and it just is.
Speaker 1:And it got to a point where my sister kind of dreads her birthday because her birthday is only six days after my dad passed the celebration of her birthday, and so every year that her birthday rolls around, she's like, well, I get it and I'm paraphrasing for her, but she's like, well, I get this wet blanket of, just less than a week before my birthday, my dad dies. So how in the world am I supposed to ever be able to celebrate my birthday, you know, and? And so then, with my uncle Don passing just a few days before her birthday, different date than when my dad passed, we got to joke about it, though, and I said, well, I said, just clarify for me which day is mine? Like, which day am I going to die? Like do I get the 22nd, the 23rd, the 25th, the 26th, you know? And we were able to laugh about it, and she like played right into it and she was like well, here are the days that you have available so whenever you open days, oh, and don't forget which day is my birthday right, let's not make it that
Speaker 2:one that is that's so funny. So, uh, okay, I want to go back to for a moment, uh, all of that realization and, um, sort of the recognition of our finality, because I think that's, I love that this episode's about death. It's just gonna be, guys, it really is, because I have a happy new year. I have a lot to say happy new lunar year.
Speaker 1:It's the year of the snake.
Speaker 2:Let's shed all the dead shit and get on with exciting shit well, I don't think anyone's thinking that, but my, my grandmother on my mom's side, the one that was the mean grandmother that I took into the haunted house in a wheelchair she always believed that february was like, basically cursed like. I think she legitimately believed in a little bit of all that and it was because she had 13 siblings.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I might have that number wrong, but it's at least 13. Oh my God. So those are my great aunts and uncles and like 90% of them, died in February. Well, get this Okay. So this is going to play into what I'm telling. I'm not just trying to tell sad stories. But, uh, my mom, when she had her stroke January 1st no way to welcome a new year in 2019 like that and then I said to my sister, if she waits till February to die, I know that my grandmother was right about February and my mom passed away on February 1st. It's like she just went. I'm going to make it this long, yep, but all that to say. And that was her mom, right, that was her mom, correct? Yeah, and she also died in February. For what it's worth.
Speaker 3:Lord, I mean like that is awesome.
Speaker 2:Everyone hold on tight.
Speaker 3:We're not leaving the house. Let's check on each other every hour.
Speaker 2:She might have died in November, I don't know, but let's just say for the story, she died in February. Right, but all to your sister's point, you know, I think it's easy if you haven't really lost someone close to you to go, oh, it's just a date. Cause I kind of felt that way before, like, oh well, like it's a date, like my sister would sometimes take off work on my dad's death anniversary and I remember thinking like what are you going to do? But I will say this I just pulled up a picture 2021. And you guys remember this story because we did a podcast when I was in Florida. I had a full on breakdown in January and I went down to St George Island and sat on the beach by myself and in a bathtub and read about chakras.
Speaker 2:Yes, Like yes, exactly Great memory.
Speaker 2:And I just went and tried to heal myself and I saw that picture come up today and I thought, oh my gosh, that was four years ago and it still is as painful as it was when my mom passed away. Now I'm not saying that to say to you because your mom is alive and well. I understand all the feelings, but I am with your sister that, like this week, I had a panic attack out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. It was right, when we were supposed to record the podcast. That's right.
Speaker 2:I was ready, I was in here, I was ready and I had this pain shoot from my chest to my back. I was pacing, I was bending over, I was doing anything I could to release this pain and we, finally everybody just called it and you both were like we'll do it another time or whatever. But that's the only thing I could point to is that during this last week before my mom passed away, that we were, she was in hospice, so we were mourning all of that and it just is like you know, we talk about all the time your body remembers. Say it, kat.
Speaker 1:The body remembers.
Speaker 2:The body keeps score, but it's true, it's so weird how even our body knows it sometimes and we don't know what's going on. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Our, our bodies, our bodies so know, and yeah, I just have so much to say about that and I want to really honor that like that. That time that anniversary is coming up, it's like, how are you doing with February 1st rolling around?
Speaker 2:I'm, I'm okay with it. I mean, obviously it's coming, whether I like it or not. Um, what I find interesting is my breakdown is usually before it. Like the day has never been super hard for me. I always try and do something to honor my mom. But when I look at that I go, oh, I was actually already mourning because I knew what was coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you were preparing. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so, Sarah, hold your hand up. She's got a boo-boo and, uh, we were standing in the garage and she looks down her hand and she's like what is that? And she thought it was like poop or something.
Speaker 3:No, she didn't really think it was not not my poop, but just like some gunk like dirt, you know.
Speaker 2:So she starts rubbing it on herself and she's like, oh, what is that? And then she realized, oh, it's like dried up blood. And she's got this cut on her hand and immediately I go OK. And she goes oh my gosh, now that I've noticed this cut, I can notice it hurts. And I thought, oh my God, that's what healing is like internally. Wow Is like we ignore it. She didn't even know that cut was there beforehand.
Speaker 1:That's fucking beautiful right we can finally feel it once.
Speaker 2:We, once, we go. Oh yeah, that actually happened. And then you're you, you can actually go. Oh, let me work through that pain that I feel and how many times, I guess.
Speaker 3:How often do we not choose to work through like we don't even choose to acknowledge oh, that happened, or I'm in pain, or like we're gonna just press on people? Yeah, you know. Oh yeah, until that comes back to get you.
Speaker 1:Sorry, kat, okay yeah, no, it's fine. It's like it reminds me of 12-step stuff you know, it's like the first step is admitting you have a problem. Yeah, you know it's like going like I have a cut, and then it's like and then what well it might. You know it's like going like I have a cut and then it's like and then what Well, it might just hurt for another year.
Speaker 1:Like, like there's no rules per se of like what happens next, but it's like, it's like admitting and acknowledging and I was even talking with a friend today about how, like, when people have an awareness of their deficiencies or their weaknesses or their shortcomings or whatever it is, it's like that's that's the best, because it's like, if there's an awareness, something is going to change. Is that whole brené brown? Something is going to change? Which reminds me I was on a flight recently and I was with a friend and my friend was convinced, convinced that the woman sitting across the aisle from us, there was a man in the aisle seat and then a woman in the window seat and my friend was convinced it was Brene Brown.
Speaker 2:oh my gosh, how did I not get a FaceTime during that?
Speaker 1:well, because we were in the air and you can't do that in the air. We were so convinced that it was Brene Brown and then we realized very quickly at the end of the flight, when we walked out with the woman, we were like, wow, this is not. Brene Brown, but it was really fun for that. Like two and a half hours to think like I am sitting within three feet of somebody who we quote like on a weekly basis, like that was really exciting man.
Speaker 2:I was once on a southwest flight with Stedman Graham Oprah's honey, honey boo, and I couldn't believe he was on a southwest flight. I was like if I had y'all's money, mama would be on first class. But he was not, not, and I even looked up his book and looked at him.
Speaker 1:I was like that's him. Wow, Amazing.
Speaker 3:While we're at it, we sat next to Snooki's dad at a bar. Oh that's true?
Speaker 2:Okay, get this. We haven't told this story. On the way to Key West. We go into like was it a yard house no, a bj's brew house.
Speaker 2:Yep, and we just went to the bar. There's football on and I, sarah's on my left and I'm sitting. This guy comes up long story, it annoyed the shit out of me. And he's like can I sit here? Basically, so he's sitting there and he's talking to his son-in-law and he's like loud as shit and, uh, he keeps apologizing Sorry, I'm from New York, sorry, I'm from New York. And then out of his mouth I hear him say somebody said have you ever been to that stadium? His son-in-law said that and he goes yeah, snooki played that stadium. And I go. He just say Snooki. So I look up Snooki's dad and, sure enough, sitting right next to me in Miami. So I look up Snooki's dad and, sure enough, sitting right next to me in Miami, there he was, there he was, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:So tell me Louis Armstrong's daughter. Do you guys know who that is? No, is it Natalie Armstrong, adele? No, it's not.
Speaker 2:Adele.
Speaker 6:Oh.
Speaker 2:Natalie Merchant Nope.
Speaker 3:Natalie Armstrong no that's Sharon Preston Folta. Yes, I, whoever.
Speaker 1:Is that right? I don't know. I sat. I sat next to her on a flight with my sister. Like this is probably like 15 years ago, and and that was when I still had the practice of carrying business cards in my backpack and carrying CDs of the artists that I work with in my backpack, so I could spread the good news of the kingdom of God, of course, and a Sharpie.
Speaker 2:You always have a Sharpie. Of course that's not a Sharpie. That was the closest thing I had.
Speaker 1:That was really close, moose, but no cigar. Anyway, yeah, we were on her her flight. This is not a good story. Did you talk to her? Yes, I gave her, I gave. I wrote her a postcard. I was like I really appreciate your art, I love your music, like you're wonderful. These are a few of the artists I work with. I hope you have a really blessed day, like it was something like that. So as I got off the plane I just handed it to her and she was like thank you she probably just threw it in the trash, but sweet, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Have you ever seen the people that like will be on a flight and will just like knit a bonnet for a baby and then be like? Here, you go at the end. Yeah, wait what?
Speaker 2:they hand it to you. Just like what if you don't have a?
Speaker 3:baby. No, no, like the mom next to them's just like oh but then, like at the end of the flight, they're like I made this hat for your kid. No, creepy I'm. I'm not into that at all, that's like that's like something southern people do and you're like no, that's don't.
Speaker 1:That's not even her colors number one I, I want to remind you laced with something right, you're not killing my baby nope not interested.
Speaker 2:Honestly, it's creepy. You brought the yarn. How did you know I was sitting here with my child.
Speaker 3:She was gonna knit anyway, connect, oh yeah. And then she just reaches over and goes can I measure your baby's head?
Speaker 1:listen, she needed a reason to connect, yeah like I feel like you guys got a whole lot of energy around this and I am just left in the dust. Man she's wrong.
Speaker 2:She's wrong.
Speaker 3:It's weird have you ever experienced that cat?
Speaker 2:no, really okay, no just me, huh, I wrote something down and I think this might be the question. That is my life's work to ask people in a container that is safe, which is not here, so that's why I'm bringing it up. Wait, no, I mean this would. This may not be a safe container as the podcast for you guys to answer it, but this is something I want everyone to take into their quiet time and their prayer closet. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1:It crosses so many not okay boundaries it's so entertaining.
Speaker 2:It's so entertaining.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, close your eyes. If you're driving, pull over and close your eyes. Close your eyes. What is the thing? What is the?
Speaker 3:thing in your life that you don't want to tell the truth about.
Speaker 2:Oh damn, I know I had a little smoky smoky session and I was like that came into my brain and I wrote that down, and then I heard the words your work starts here.
Speaker 1:Wow, what is the thing in your life that you don't want to tell the truth about? Hmm, I mean, you're right, I can't do that here.
Speaker 3:No no, yeah, I can't do that here, I can't do that here we shouldn't, should we, I mean I could pick, like a small thing sure and be like yeah be like I don't want to tell my weight number.
Speaker 2:Oh, shut up, you've got deeper issues than that. You whore, you stupid whore.
Speaker 5:Just a little internal family systems, work that needs to be done what is it you don't want to tell the truth about?
Speaker 2:Okay, that's write it down internally or on your phone or wherever you need to talk to your therapist about it. Write a blog.
Speaker 1:I was going to say like we've got to resource people, like we can't just drop a grenade like that and then be like see you next week.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, these people know what to do with it. Like you, either, take it, put it in your pocket, think about it or not even think about it.
Speaker 1:You need to feel into it you need to get some cat davis, touchy touchy, give me a break and uh and think about.
Speaker 2:What is it that you don't want to tell the truth about? Oh man, that was. That was straight from the heavens, the aliens, straight from Jupiter guys, into my heart and brain. I welcomed it.
Speaker 1:I said come now is the time to worship.
Speaker 2:Okay, wait, but you're missing the other half of it. Yeah, the last part of it is your work starts there. So what was the first part? What's the thing you don't want to tell the truth about? Your work starts there, wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a great challenge.
Speaker 2:But the problem is, you got to decide that you want to tell the truth Because, guess what, you're not going to feel it. We know that You're not going to feel it until you point it out and go oh there, it is, motherfucker yeah.
Speaker 3:And, like my wound, your boo-boo, be willing to look at it.
Speaker 5:Yes.
Speaker 3:And go like. At first I'm like ugh, disgusted by it. And within seconds my ugh turned to oh no, like by it. And within seconds my turn to oh, no, like I've got it. You know, like. And all of a sudden I hurt and I feel and it was a totally different expression by being willing to examine it, I guess, yeah, yeah yeah, I'm gonna be on a road trip with my mom.
Speaker 1:Tomorrow we're going to our annual family visitation to real foot lake, um yeah yeah, so that that is tomorrow and um, or it starts tomorrow and my mom and I are going a little bit earlier than everybody else, um, and we're doing that so that we have intentional one-on-one time to get to just be together and to talk you know, and and when we dropped my sister and her son off at their house after the family visitation yesterday, we had about 12 minutes in the car between my sister's house and my house and then my mom drove another two hours to go home to Alabama and in that 12 minutes my mom and I had the most beautiful, most intimate time together, talking about our feelings.
Speaker 1:And I was so excited because I felt like when I got to kind of see her off to drive home to Alabama, I was like, oh, only in like two or three days I'm going to get to do this with her again, yeah, and have this time with her again. And I've thought about, like what do I want to talk about? Like what questions do I want to ask? And blah, blah, blah, blah. And like what do I want to talk about? Like what questions do I want to ask? And blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think I'm going to start with this one, that's great, I think I'm going to start with this one.
Speaker 1:What, what do you not want to tell the truth about? Holy shit?
Speaker 2:Isn't it such a? You said it it's a grenade.
Speaker 1:It's a it's a grenade and also give her and myself both the permission.
Speaker 2:You don't have to answer that on this trip, yeah, yeah, you know, if you want, and you don't have to tell me it's yeah yeah, you can answer it for yourself and not talk to me about it, and I think it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a very provocative question, moose, you, you are oh, I like being provocative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whoa, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna claim that. Do you know that I once asked an artist that used to manage you can guess which one how would you describe me, and they said well, not nice. So, instead of answering it, the first words out of their mouth was not, I'm not going to say nice is what they were saying and I was like. I appreciate that. I really do like I appreciate that I really do Like. I don't want that. Nice is too fluffy Like I want to be provocative.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Nice you guys. I want to challenge us with all of these people dying. Oh God, I know. You got to have a little dark humor, guys. It doesn't work, otherwise we have so much life yet to do whatever we want with it. Yeah, we legitimately do, and we think it's over and we're like, oh well, let's just lean on into the bucket and it's like nah, man, like what do we want to do? Doesn't have to be painful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what I want to do is I want to do more of this. Yeah, me too. Okay, I want to do more of this because this feels like a cross between, or a cross section of entertainment group therapy, healing fun yeah, not on the rails Like I like to get to kind of exist in this, like, yeah, it feels very Wu Wei to me, like I love it and I want to do more of it.
Speaker 2:Maybe we need to change the name to Off the Rails or Wu Wei. I'm down with either of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think Off the Rails would be more.
Speaker 2:More appropriate.
Speaker 1:Well, I just think people would understand it. I think there's like three people who would go. Oh, Wu Wei, I know what that is, but they would be our people, though they would be our people, though they would be our people, yeah, yeah, maybe we just republish our podcast with like nine different names and see which one catches the fastest, yeah, that's a social media strategy right now. Actually, it's like create a million accounts that are very similar but not exactly the same, and see what you can get.
Speaker 2:We would totally get them all hacked, though. All of them would be hacked and we would have no businesses left.
Speaker 3:Hey, let's not manifest that I'm just kidding Gosh who came out?
Speaker 2:That was a demon. Get out of here, demon. Get on out. Get on out. Hey, are we watching the super bowl together, or do?
Speaker 1:you have other plans?
Speaker 2:I mean I don't have other plans, I don't have other friends.
Speaker 1:So great, let's go Well we're coming.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know anyone, but we could pray about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pray about it. And I know that was way too late. It was all of a sudden, like I asked you to like cross the San Francisco.
Speaker 2:Bay Bridge. You took me to third base before I was ready.
Speaker 3:I didn't even kiss you. I'm so sorry. We could discuss offline. Let's discuss it offline.
Speaker 1:Thank you guys for listening. We are so glad you're back. Producer Sarah. Thank you, so excited to celebrate your creativity and your podcast called Sequestred, sequestred Go, follow Go listen. Very excited about that.
Speaker 2:Love you all. Have a wonderful week.
Speaker 1:Love you, Kat Love you guys, Love you, Moose Love you, Miss. Love you Kat. Love you guys, Love you Moose, Love you, Miss Love you. Love you Sarah.
Speaker 6:Bye.
Speaker 1:Special thanks to our producer Sarah.
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