Kat and Moose Podcast
Kat and Moose Podcast is a true-life podcast exploring the quirks of being human. We bring hilarious anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions about spirituality, mental health, personal growth, bodywork, midlife, relationships, self-care, and more!
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Welcome to the cat and moose podcast . I'm cat and I'm moose .
Speaker 2This is a true life podcast where we explore the quirks of being human . Hey cat , hey moose . Hello Sarah , hello everyone . I have to start off by saying um . Reason number six , four , two that I know I'm in midlife is I have a memory of my father . Curious if your guys's fathers did this . I have a memory of my father um taking his pinky and dipping it .
Speaker 3I thought you were going somewhere else , I still don't know where we're going .
Speaker 2Wow , wow , no . Wow , that would be a start to the episode .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 1Oh goodness , we just got 14 new listeners and they're all porn bots . Wow , shite .
Speaker 2They're all porn bots . Okay , so my dad , this is not dirty so he took his pinky . He takes his pinky and he would dip it in some VapoRub and then stick it up his nose and spin it around . And I remember thinking that is the grossest thing I've ever seen , like you're , just like sticking your finger in your nose and rubbing it around . And I , right before we started recording , I reached over to this little vape and I went and I took a big ol' sniff . That's where I'm at in this world , you guys , is I am hot .
Speaker 3You're not too far from sliding that pinky in If you know what I am .
Speaker 1you're not too far from sliding that pinky in , if you know what I mean . And I was just thinking about how this is a great example about how we can break generational curses like we can . You know you are not sticking your finger in there and then sticking it up your nose , like you are just mildly just inhaling above the jar , like I feel like you have come a thousand generations .
Speaker 2I'm actually proud of where I'm at , because it is . It does help wait , awaken the brain . Brain , don't you think ?
Speaker 1a little vapo rub . Yeah , absolutely , that stuff's amazing .
Speaker 1I love it uh , sarah , please write down slipping the pinky in for a title wow , possibility , wow , slipping the pinky and in the vapo rub complete the sentence I remember one time , um , I had one of our , our clients , listen to the podcast because we talked about something , quote unquote , controversial , and but I was just like . I just want you to know that I'm a part of this thing that we're putting out in the world and it's not consistent with , maybe , the industry that we all work in together .
Speaker 3It's not consistent , so you don't have to worry about it getting on some algorithm train or anything like that .
Speaker 2It's not going to happen , so don't worry about it Not going to happen . Falling in line with the quirks of life , I guess , I don't know .
Speaker 1Hey , at least we got our branding right . You know , yeah , sure , but anyway , okay .
Speaker 2So what did we talk about ?
Speaker 1Well , it was the episode called the Grasshopper and the Gay Christian . Do you remember that episode ? I ?
Speaker 2remember that that was a long time ago . Yeah , several years ago now .
Speaker 1And we're cutting edge man . I tell you , yeah , we are , I know so anyway . So I asked them you know just to listen . I said is there anything that I , we have done or said that like you feel like is going to be , you know , heartful to you or whatever ? And they said back to me . They said , kat , I am not worried at all about the content of this episode , I'm worried about your episode titles . And they said they said , if a large majority of the people you work with read your titles alone , they might be offended . And I was like , well , well , that's the point .
Speaker 3Yeah , is it relevant ? I feel like it's relevant because they're actual things we're talking about in the episode .
Speaker 2If you're a patron , you get to watch Kat dig stuff out of her nose and you get to
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Speaker 2watch Did she use her pinky ? You get to watch me snuff my vapor rub . Did she use her pinky ? You get to watch me snuff my VapoRub . So you know , one dollar can make you holla , holla holla .
Speaker 1So , moose , you said you had a lot of content that you wanted to explore today , and I have exactly one thing on my notes .
Speaker 2Okay , well , let's just get . Mine is kind of a quick take , so let me get just a couple things out of the way , all right , something that I'm realizing is none of my friends are watching the news , which I don't think you should I'm in favor of that and so they're a little out of touch with what's happening in the world beyond politics . I don't think you need to know , I think you're just doing fine here , but , um , but I thought I would let those people know , who aren't watching the news , for their own mental health , some things that are happening in the world besides politics oh yeah , that's lovely , that's lovely .
Speaker 3Okay , this is the kind of news I'd love . Okay , great all right .
Speaker 2So as of uh , sunday , february 23rd 2025 , at five o'clock pm , central time , here are some things people are talking about . All right , airplanes . We got to come back because that's a whole other topic that we need to cover . Yeah , okay , so definitely airplanes . The pope is in critical condition . Are you aware of this ?
Speaker 1oh , yeah , yeah . Yeah , I've actually been paying attention to the news , which is very not not my jam , so , um , I am aware of that . Yeah , that is news .
Speaker 1Yeah , it is uh , yeah , that's sad I think I , I just like , I like , first of all , like I um am sad for him as a person , like I'm sad that he's sick , like I'm sad that he is not well , I'm sad that he is in critical condition . As a human being , I am also sad about the idea of him transitioning into his eternal life in heaven during this crazy time that is our world right now . And it's like it just feels really scary to me that , like a Pope that I think we all really generally like and appreciate how he thinks and the changes that he has encouraged in the church and and the way that he has called people to love like God loves , like I am , I'm a bit terrified that becoming unstable . You know , it's one thing when the leader of the free world is unstable and if , like the leader of the world's largest , arguably , church changes , like that's so scary to me , like can you , can you ?
Speaker 2it's scary it's very scary to me it is okay , I have two thoughts on this . One I need you to explain because I know you have some adjacency to the catholic church in your job . Great , word .
Speaker 3Thank you , yeah , it's very impressive I don't think it's a word Adjacency . You are adjacent . It explained it .
Speaker 1Yeah , I understood it immediately the first time , yeah .
Speaker 2I want to hear more about you saying it's scary , and if you could give us more context of what does happen when the Pope passes away .
Speaker 1Yeah so so the reason that I think it's scary is I think that pope francis has really um . I think that he has really helped the , not just the image of the church . I think that he has helped the church .
Speaker 1I think that he has said , hey , some of our ways of being are not okay and we gotta , we gotta make a shift , you know .
Speaker 1And it's like , so I , I really , I really appreciate a lot that he has , that he has brought to the table in in the time of his leadership , and so I am scared to have something that I have felt , felt like , is like largely really good for the church . Like I feel really really scary that that that that's just going to go through a transition . It doesn't even . It's like I'm not even concerned whether it's good or bad yet , I'm just concerned that it's going through a transition and we all know that transition is hard . Like I was just reading a meme earlier that says you know , all these people have these things about caterpillars and butterflies and they just think the caterpillar rolls around in a blanket and then comes out a butterfly and what has to happen is the caterpillar has to go through a complete metamorphosis and turn into the snot that's on your pinky , from being in your nose with vicks on it , in order to literally transform into this beautiful thing that flies you .
Speaker 1You know it dissolves , yeah , it literally dissolves , yes , and then flies away yeah , and so to me it's like any transformation that is happening right now in the political state of our world just terrifies me , especially one that I've been largely really supportive of . So that's what I mean by that , yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , Well , good , I just saw that he on March 13th it will be 10 years since his election . I guess it's an election right ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , tell us about that , do we know ?
Speaker 1Well , I know a little bit about it and and I would like to speak from a place of a little bit more education . Yeah , let's look it up . I think it's worth an edit . His death , whenever it happens , is still set to immediately kick off a tightly choreographed series of events refined over centuries and hundreds of dead popes . Some Vatican traditions date back to ancient Rome . At the end of the spectacle , a new leader of the Catholic Church will be selected in a high stakes election , with progressive and conservative cardinals vying for control of an institution with a billion followers globally Wow .
Speaker 3Man , I'm so curious about the process of that election . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1I am too , yeah , and in the movie Conclave is really I can't speak to how accurate it is to reality or whatever , but I found it like incredibly fascinating , like just the way that like it's basically like you put all these dudes in a room together until they can make a decision . And , sarah , you know what that's like Like you know what that's like Like you have just been through something like that where you have to agree with another body of humans that this is going to be our , our consensus . You know , and , and so I know that there are a lot of people way more educated than me who can make predictions on . You know who might be . You know , for lack of a better term running for the next pope , you know who might be v know , for lack of a better term running for the next pope , you know who might be vying for that , that position , and um , it's something that I I think is uh . I remember when princess diana died . It was right around the time that mother theresa died yes , I've always said that it overshadowed mother .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , exactly , yeah , exactly .
Speaker 1I loved them both , yeah me too , and it's like there was all this , like you know , ceremony and pomp and circumstance and everything around Princess Diana , because she was loved , like so many people really loved her , and Mother Teresa died and it was just like , yeah , but Princess Diana died , you know , like it just it just it kind of didn't feel the same and so , and to me , I think they're very , I think they're both death has a lot of gravity period . I think they both died very , very is gravity .
Speaker 1Worthy of our grief , worthy of our grief ? Yes , I just think there's a lot of gravity there , and so I'm feeling similarly , that it's like , oh , we've transitioned leadership in our grief . Yes , I just think there's a lot of gravity there , and so I'm feeling similarly that it's like , oh , yeah , we've transitioned leadership in our country , whether it's happened legitimately or not , or you like it or not , it's like it . Just it is where we're at right now , and and so it makes me really a little bit on the edge of my seat to go oh , that may happen in the church too , and that , uh , is it going to be eclipsed by a new executive order and Elon Musk , like literally saying Kyle Hitler ? You know what I mean . It's like I , I , I don't know , yeah , wow .
Speaker 2Uh , I , yeah , I am in complete awe about the Pope thing because it makes me think like is , is there a hierarchy where , like , the bishops are sort of vying to be the next Pope , or is it not related to that at all ?
Speaker 1No , it really is , because there are . There are priests , there are deacons who are not clergy , like they're just lay people serving the church , and then there are priests , and then there are bishops , and then there are archbishops , and then there are cardinals , and then there is the pope .
Speaker 1Wow , I didn't realize , yeah yeah , so it's a very , very well laid out hierarchy . Yeah , um , it's , it's very understandable . You know , it's like you can look at a flow chart and go oh , the Pope's in charge , and then everybody else , yana . Um , so , yeah , so there . Well , will there ever be a female Pope ? I mean not , it won't be possible this time around . Yeah , there are no female Cardinals , there are no female priests in the Catholic church , for that matter . So so , not , not any time soon .
Speaker 2Priests are like Episcopalian aren't they ?
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , or Lutheran , maybe too .
Speaker 2Yeah , methodist . So they don't ? They don't . I didn't even think of that , like . I mean , I know that priests are priests , but like nuns , they're like the handmaid's tale .
Speaker 1I mean again , I can't speak to what it's like to be a nun , but that is not my understanding at all .
Speaker 2Well , I just mean , I guess what I mean . Well , okay , I'm pissing a lot of people off today . I would like to say I have a whole shelf of books that are written by nuns . So I have a lot of esteem for the nunship , but I guess what I'm saying is that maybe that was a little sarcasm in there . Oh wait , can you put that in the title too ? Nonsense .
Speaker 1A slippery Vicks , pinky and nonsense .
Speaker 2I think , it's nunship .
Speaker 3I just made up nonsense , that's nonsense . Yes , oh , it's funny . I just made up nonsense , that's nonsense . Yes , oh yeah , it's funny .
Speaker 2it's funny , it was funny um , I guess my point is like the the women can be of service . Why I guess that was . My point is like is a ? I know that this is sticky territory for you , cat and I see it and you're . I see it in your very strict nod of , but I don't think you should have said that still .
Speaker 1Let's not put words in my mouth .
Speaker 2All right , so let's move on , guys , before it gets crazy here . Uh , you said you said the word kismet earlier , cat , and I wrote it down because I do not know what that means . Can you tell us me either ?
Speaker 1um , I , I , I can tell you what I think it means . Um , this is an educational podcast , as you remember . Um , kismet is kind of like um , the best way I know how to describe it would be like synchronicity . Oh , I , like you know , it's kind of like everything happened at a certain time and it just happened to be that , like a plus b equals c squared times 10 to the 10th degree . You know it's like it , it's it's like you can't make that shit up . You know it's like it just happens and it's like well , is it an algorithm ? Is it science ? Is it you algorithm , is it science ? Is it , you know , spirituality ? Is it ? And nobody really knows , like , everybody has a lot of opinions about what it is , but I kind of , I kind of view it as like a very , very peculiar timing that may or may not be describable by science .
Speaker 2I love that Cause I believe Great description by science . I love that because I believe Great description in all of the everything . I hate the phrase everything happens for a reason , especially when it's used as like a kick in the gut , right , but I do believe that science . Often things are put in front of us or opportunities fly around us that we can have access to .
Speaker 1Yeah , and it's kind of like Liz Gilbert's big magic . You know it's like I've interpreted it through my lens of Christianity . You know that it's like to me it's the Holy Spirit . It's like , oh , it's like the Holy Spirit orchestrated this and this and this and this and this to all happen in a way that it did to for some greater good . You know like , but who knows ? Let's look up the definition of kismet , sarah , ok With a K .
Speaker 2I wrote K-I-Z-M-E-T , but that may not be . I think it's M-E-T .
Speaker 3K-I-S-M-E -T A Z , I think . I think it's M-E-T K-I-S-M-E-T A Z , I think , I think it's a Z , but I don't know An Arabic word that means fate or destiny .
Speaker 3Yeah , that sounds about right . Read it to us , okay . Kismet is an Arabic word that means fate or destiny . It comes from the Arabic word kismat , which means division portion lot . Kismet , which means division portion , lot . The word was borrowed into english from turkish in the early 1800s . In islam , kismet refers to the will of allah . It's often used to describe something that happened by chance but was meant to be oh , I love it .
Speaker 2Used it perfectly , kat thanks , great job .
Speaker 1Thanks , I'm super proud of myself . You're smart um .
Speaker 2Can we talk about eggs ?
Speaker 1I sure I mean , if we can afford it , yeah , that's what I'm saying like who knew ? I think we have four left in the fridge and I used guys all of mine last week okay , I think that all of this is propaganda .
Speaker 2Remember , back in the 80s and 90s , it was like those commercials the incredible edible egg . Yeah , okay , I think all of this is just propaganda . Like somewhere behind the scenes , like Trump was like look , I'll cut a deal with the egg people if they'll do this for me .
Speaker 3You know yeah .
Speaker 2And so now they're like let's create a flu . Let's create a flu . No , not the egg flu . The bird flu . No , I'm talking about people are stealing eggs from one another . Yeah , okay , yep , they are , but you're right , the bird flu is happening . And that is oh Okay .
Speaker 3Yep , they are . But you're right , the bird flu is happening and that is . Oh , is it why ? Because the price of eggs have gone up , Because I didn't know it was because of the bird flu .
Speaker 2Yeah Right , Is that true ? Or did you just guess that's what I think ? I thought that's how they were saying . The economy has gone to shit is the price of eggs .
Speaker 1I think there's a lot of opinions out there and I have heard , I have heard what both of you are saying and I don't know which . It is Like I don't , I don't know if it's because of the bird flu or if it's a metaphor for economic crisis . Like , I have no idea . And I think it's really funny that people who don't even like or eat eggs are riled up about this . Oh yeah , you're right .
Speaker 2You know it's like that's a great point . I agree , but I've eaten more eggs in the past week because they seem like such a hot commodity . Yeah yeah .
Speaker 1I know , yeah , and propaganda at its best .
Speaker 3That and toilet paper in COVID days . Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Right .
Speaker 3Yeah , and going back to the 80s and 90s , I saw a post the other day that was like we used to throw those things eggs and toilet paper at people's houses . Right Like now , we're all freaked out about not being able to afford it . That's pretty funny .
Speaker 2OK , you're right , Sarah , I looked it up . Eggs they're so expensive right now because of supply and demand , eggs are now a commodity .
Speaker 3You're right . See what a hot commodity too .
Speaker 2Right , and they it is because of slow recovery from the avian flu , which apparently this is the only . No , I'm not going to do it . It's political and I'm not . Look at me , I'm so incredible . Yay , um . No , I won't . Um , that's that's . Those are my main news points . I wanted to point out I also , if you're an msnbc fan , joy reed just got her show just got canceled , which is called the readout , I'm shocked . I love joy reed , so just information for you we have the same last name yeah , you do nice .
Speaker 1I , um , I did a little bit of googling and , um , my , my resource is called republic . Okay , I don't know . I don't know what that does or does not mean . I do not know it's made up how I'm sure it's completely all ai okay ?
Speaker 1um , to be eligible , candidates must be male and a baptized Catholic . However , while most popes have been cardinals before their election , it is not a strict requirement . So strike what I said before . The pope is chosen by 120 cardinals under the age of 80 at the time of the previous pope's passing or resignation . As of January 22nd
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Speaker 1, there are 138 cardinals eligible to vote , out of a total of 252 worldwide . A two-thirds majority is required for a candidate to be elected pope . If no candidate emerges quickly , voting continues , often focusing on the top contenders . If no one emerges quickly , the vote continues and , from the 34th ballot onward , the conclave narrows down the choice to the two top contenders .
Speaker 1The longest papal election lasted three years in the 13th century , with three cardinals dying during the process . Oh my gosh . Ballots are written in disguised handwriting and burned in a small fire inside the chapel after each vote . Whoa . Once a candidate wins two-thirds of the votes , the cardinal dean asks if they are willing to accept the position . If they agree , the new pope chooses a papal name , the Vatican tailors three papal robes in various sizes and the pope enters the room of tears adjacent to the Sistine Chapel to don his new attire . Finally , the new pope is introduced to the public from the balcony of St Peter's Basilica . This is deeply ritualistic and a process that continues to shape the future of the Catholic Church .
Speaker 3Wow , I had no idea . But of course , of course there's such a traditional like process to it as is how the whole Catholic Church is run .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean it's like it's it's very you know , to use the word loosely like it's liturgical . It's just like the liturgical year , it's like the liturgical calendar , it's like there there is a ritual , and I think that I've seen a lot of people talking online about how , in this time of so much uncertainty and instability and anxiety and all of the things that we're all feeling some of for some reason , that like the best thing we can do for ourselves is find our center . That like the best thing we can do for ourselves is find our center the best .
Speaker 1thing that we can do is check into the core of our being and check in with our morals , our beliefs , our you know , tradition , shit , our morals , our beliefs , our traditions and and also like , how , how do I remain me with all the craziness going on around me ? It's very earth element type stuff , if you're thinking about chinese five element theory and um , and to me , ritual is really important to people . It's why we , we burn incense , it's why we have ceremonies , it's why certain indigenous cultures have rituals that they do . You know , it's like it's there for a reason and and I'm not saying it's all good , I'm not saying the church is all good or any of that . I'm just saying that , like I do , I do appreciate that there that there is kind of a pattern , a path , a ritual , yeah , and it does make sense that that it it is very um , ceremonial yeah .
Speaker 2Um , can I say something without it ? I want everyone to know I'm not trying to stir the pot or anything , but I checked in with myself and I feel like it's okay to say this . But I don't want you , kat , to feel like you have to defend anything on behalf of the Catholic church or any church for that matter .
Speaker 1Yeah , they have not elected me to be their spokesperson . Last time I checked .
Speaker 3You're next in line for the papal .
Speaker 2I think the thing , uh , as as you were talking and I was listening to all that , I actually do enjoy ritual I . One of my favorite things in the world is when I'm in New York to go into tell me the name of it St St Pat's cathedral , yeah , St Pat's yeah .
Speaker 2It's like beautiful and I like last time I was in New York I just sat in there for 45 minutes and just took in the music , and so I totally hear all of that . I what I was trying to check in with me , like what is what bugs me so much about such a male led system ? And it's simple , it's , um , it's representation . It's like why , like , I love so much about and I'm not talking about just the Catholic Church , but those like when people are like women , cannot do these things around religion ? That's so hard for me because I'm like , ok , god clearly created us and so if , if I can't have representation in the church , that makes me feel like why would I follow this in some ways , because I am , I don't have anyone on that stage or in the leadership on stage that looks like me you know , yeah , I just needed to share that .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean , I think that's that is I was going to say . I think that's a concern that is shared by many , many , many people , you know , and it's it's things like this that that divide the church . You know that it's like okay , well , we're going to break off here , because we don't think that the communion is actually the flesh and blood , the communion and the wine . We don't think this is actually Jesus . So we're going to go create our own denomination .
Speaker 2You know , wait a minute . This is a piece of bread , right , I need his toe , right yeah .
Speaker 1I mean , but it's like it really is a great description of how humanity has been divided forever and ever , you know , and it's . It's one of those things that's really . It's really hard for me to , and I don't want to be a priest , I don't want to . I don't like as as no , I don't either . Actually , so , yeah , and like , at the same time , like I go , like I know a lot of women in positions of very , very high influence in the Catholic church and I would not want to mess with them .
Speaker 2I would not put them in , put them into play Well , but whether they're on stage or not .
Speaker 1Like I'm like you're actually smarter than all the dudes because you're not on stage . Like you're .
Speaker 2here's the question I actually was asking in my head and I was like , should I go there ? But the answer is always yes . The question is what are you afraid of ? That is where I come from , when people are afraid of all populations to exist in certain systems . You know , what is it that you're right ? I mean there is something , because you know , and I I'm sure there's something in there about doctrine that maybe they believe doctrine says this or that or whatever , whatever understand that , but like why can't more voices be heard in the room , is always my question .
Speaker 1Yeah , well , and I yeah , yes , I feel your frustration and I feel it . I feel it Like I I know that that we've apparently made some rule that we're not going to talk about politics that I didn't know we made . But , um , I like , apparently , like that's a big question that I'm asking right now . It's like , at what point does some of this stuff like I was reading this whole article on um , you know , reading this whole article on um , you know basically authoritarianism , I think is yeah , yeah , and it's like , it's like at what point are we gonna go like um , not okay , like , not , not okay , and what does that even look like ?
Speaker 3yeah , what does that look like ? I have no idea . I'm with you that's my thought too . It's like apparently this guy or these his people , whatever can just test every limit and show up and be like I'm gonna try it , and then no one does anything . He's like all right , cool .
Speaker 2Thanks , I'm just gonna fire all these federal workers and everybody's looking around going like can you do that ? I don't know All right ? Well , he did it , so I just realized I'm probably mad at him and not the church . Yeah , there are lots of models of this .
Speaker 1Well , I was going to say there's times in history where they're shockingly similar .
Speaker 3So it's very fair . They've always come . What was the word you used Adjacently ?
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2You know what I wonder is like . What will these days be talked about in the future ? Yeah yeah , like , will it be like us reading the history books of , like you know , something as crazy as the depression , where we're like , whoa , I can't even imagine that . I'm not saying specifically economically that , but is it going to be a series of years that people look back and go , holy shit , can't believe we made ?
Speaker 3through that ? Well , we did that with the pandemic .
Speaker 1Yeah , true .
Speaker 2Yeah , and that's like just barely out of sight , I feel like 2020 was like it's just been a bad train wreck since then .
Speaker 3Yeah , and like , like , for me maybe there was more , but like for me , the last , the one prior to 2020 , was like 9-11 . Yeah , exactly , you know , like that was the last , like holy shit , what are we experiencing ? And I don't know .
Speaker 2Then the airplanes .
Speaker 1Let's just just we're a cat , yeah , what else we're a ?
Speaker 3catastrophic uh catastrophic podcast I would like to share that my lilacs are trying to bloom . Are they really ? Yeah ?
Speaker 2that's great . So are we outsider ? They don't know about the political . No , yeah , we got to be more like the lilacs .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , they're just trying to live their life according to the sunshine .
Speaker 1Yeah Well , and it's like in our text thread earlier I was saying , you know , I was saying something about our consistency and stuff like that . And then , as I was talking about it , I was saying I feel like having a conversation about this will make Moose want to rip my eyes out and make Sarah want to go tend her garden . And that's exactly where I was going is . I was saying that like , like we have got to revert back to like what , what is nature , what are our bodies saying ? What is going on ? And it's like to look at a bunch of computer generated . We don't even know if the news is real , like we don't , we don't know the end of it .
Speaker 1You know , it's just like come on , let's return to the way of the lilac .
Speaker 2I agree , Agree . I had a friend text me and she just said this is all a simulation .
Speaker 3And I was like it is like money's not real .
Speaker 2just said this is all a simulation and I was like it is like money's not real . None of this is real . It's like we're supposed . Here's what we're doing , guys , you want to know is we are on a giant marathon and everything we could possibly learn in this life we need to take it in , we need to accept when the really hard stuff happens and receive it and grieve it and all the things , and then , I think , next life we get to be dogs and cats .
Speaker 1I saw a thing on Instagram today about this owl that this woman believed was her husband , reincarnated Like , and it like blessed her to high heaven , like pun intended . And you talked about a marathon and I had an idea . This was the one thing I wrote down to , oh .
Speaker 2I just said marathon .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , you did , we're in the kismet good memory .
Speaker 3What does that mean ?
Speaker 1You taught it to me , kismet . No , but like . Why , right now are we in it ? Cause .
Speaker 2I had an idea marathon , and then the one thing you have written down is run .
Speaker 1Yes , we are amidst the kismet , thank you .
Speaker 2Thank you .
Speaker 1It was meant to be yes .
Speaker 2We are kismetal mental .
Speaker 1We're a kids mental podcast , um , so I had the idea of what if we have an annual producer . Sarah presents the cat and moose podcast 5k wait a minute , consistent I feel like somebody just gave you fentanyl in your ass .
Speaker 2Is this ?
Speaker 3fake news .
Speaker 2No , are you ? I need and where is my friend ? I need help , I need something . I would bring up and you would say you're fucking crazy , right , I'm out yes , and so I am getting a very why , does it have to be a 5k though ?
Speaker 3well that feels the smallest amount .
Speaker 1This is exactly how humanity evolves . It's like I said one thing and gave no context . Oh no , we won't let you talk . There is no talking , you know better you can't finish .
Speaker 2Okay , all right , I'm going to stop . I'm going to make room for you A nonjudgmental space .
Speaker 3I will too .
Speaker 2You may come sit near me on this pillow . Kat , tell us about . I'm sorry , we totally hijacked you . Here's my hand to hold . Sarah's offering her hand to hold .
Speaker 1Thank you . Thank you , Sarah , I'm holding your hand . My thought was is that if we had a Kat Moose 5K and we put all kinds of marketing around it and had a big ideation meeting around it , Like what could it look like ? Like , are there wine tastings every 100 feet ? Oh , I love it . Like , are there beds ? Are there stretchers ?
Speaker 2Are there ambulances .
Speaker 1This is great Like . Are there also people Like we have several mutual friends that I know can pop into both your minds right now who would be like I will show up and run your 5k you know , and it's like I need that energy right now , like I need a little bit .
Speaker 1I need a little bit of help to better myself physically , like I am doing so good on like the emotional maturity training train . Like I am really doing a great job . Like I had a conversation with someone the other night who very gently pointed out to me that I have a few fixations in my life that I need to look at .
Speaker 1Oh , I want to know , more about that , like I need to , I need to recognize that . It's like , wow , I have gone down the rabbit hole on these topics or people or things or whatever , and it's like I need to just be careful and try to crawl myself back out . You know , and it just kind of felt like a metaphor to me of like I feel like what we're supposed to do is in community . We're supposed to help and support one another .
Speaker 3So why don't we ?
Speaker 1ask our community to come together for a producer . Sarah presents the cat and moose podcast five K , and it looks like all of the things that we just talked about and then some you know , and it's like what does it look like the next year and what does it look like the next year and what does it ?
Speaker 2look like Is it an actual thing we get together ?
Speaker 1or is it virtual ? I would . My preference would be that that we actually get together , and I know that I probably lost you both on that point .
Speaker 3No , no , no , no , because you know what's funny is . I was talking recently . Someone mentioned 5K , but it was like a basically every , when you said wine every 100 yards or whatever . It was like that with beer , like you just drink your way to the end and I'm like oh , my goodness , that would be so funny to just have various stations like couch , couch station , a TV stop .
Speaker 1You know what I mean . Like bathroom .
Speaker 3Stop yeah Like , and just make your way through wherever Binge Grey's Anatomy stop . You know what I mean .
Speaker 1I mean it's like whatever , whatever it just you know to me . I was thinking like it's like whatever , whatever it just you know to me . I was thinking like it would be really fun to get a bunch of somewhat like-minded people together and go what does this look like , you know and just watch it morph and shape over time and then be able to look back and go like , wow , look at how this community kind of evolved and shaped itself .
Speaker 2I just I think we should give prizes for the people who are the last three .
Speaker 3Yes , that's great .
Speaker 2And we should . You aren't allowed to run or jog . You can only walk it . I don't know . I think that are you going to run it ? I don't know what's happening .
Speaker 3I think prizes go to the first three and the last three .
Speaker 1Yeah , no , I'm not saying I'm going to run it , I'm saying like I need to be inspired by my friends who would . And . I need for them to come alongside me and go just for a few steps , Kat , like just for a few steps , like run it with me , even if it's only to the next .
Speaker 2I have to say this is representative of how good your mental health is right now and I want to honor that because I've known you a long time and I've had you run one 5k with me .
Speaker 1We did the color one and it was awesome .
Speaker 2It was awesome . My sister , sarah , and I signed up for one on February 1st because it was the anniversary of my mom's death in Cincinnati , and we didn't run it . Like we ended up . A million things came up and we didn't run it . Mainly , we didn't practice . Yeah .
Speaker 3We weren't going to run that .
Speaker 2Okay , I like this a lot .
Speaker 3I like that , like we can do where people have , like they volunteer , whatever the like . Wherever the route is , along the route , people are like okay , I'm going to do , I'm going to host this pop-up station or this stop station or whatever , and then in in areas of the route where we can't stop , we make it like a speed . You know , this is the part of the route where you run , you know like , and it's like a hundred yards a hundred yard dash and it's like they're making fun .
Speaker 1They're skateboards and there are dollies and there are , like you know , scooters and things that you know .
Speaker 3I love the scooter . I saw something to help give them a rest . Yes , Like they're they're like prime IV on the side , like offering , like fluids , and they're just stabbing you with vitamin B you don't have to fill out .
Speaker 2Just sign all your stuff ahead of time . Yeah , Fine People handing out dupes . You know , like here , smoke this on the way , bro , and you I mean and you can do all of it .
Speaker 1You can do none of it .
Speaker 3You can do some of it . Yeah , yeah , yeah , of course .
Speaker 2We'll , you can do some of it . Yeah , yeah , yeah , of course . Yeah , we'll be . Have a dupe station . Yeah , I like this a lot , like you could , if you are , you need like a break . You we need one of somebody . Uh , what are those called in the philippines ? Uh , uh , that you ride , uh , it's like a trike , but you can get in the back and they'll take you to the next jeepney .
Speaker 2What is it jeepney ? No , no , what tuk tuk ? A tuk tuk , tuk , tuk , tuk tuk . Yes , we'll have some tuk tuks where , if you need a ride , we'll put you on the back , or golf carts . That's great . I don't know why I needed to have a tuk tuk . I really like this idea . Let's do it . You know , I'm k and m by project . Yes , it reminds me of when I did those benefit concerts like 20 years ago , because I know how to get all the permitting . We can't do it downtown nashville , oh , and we don't want to do it downtown , no , we need to do like hendersonville .
Speaker 1Yeah , I was gonna say this is a thing that it's like it's gonna take place in like iuka , mississippi you know like it's gotta be a place that's impossible to get to . That only our community would be willing enough to to make the track you know okay yeah yeah it's gotta yeah , it's gotta be somewhere .
Speaker 2Cheap but safe , yes and um . I love these ideas . This is great cat I really do , I'm really glad I need a little . I need a little ass kicking as well when it comes to some motivation .
Speaker 1So that sounds fun and I think that , like I'm , I'm realizing for me after all these years that , like the you know talking to myself in my head , like in the voice of my dad or my inner critic , or whatever it is , it's like that's not working , like that's not working , and so it's like I I really have identified lately that it's like I just need support . I just need some support and I don't need a lot of support . I don't need to drain anybody's life energy . I don't need to have anybody's Jing Chi get eliminated over like that was a big how do you eliminate that Right ?
Speaker 2Well , it's painful ?
Speaker 1Yeah it , it probably is , and so I . But I do need a little bit of support , and so I'm curious if we get any feedback about this idea other than our internal .
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean , look at the feedback we had on the holler and contest . I mean these people they're lining up for our events . We do need , at the five K , to have a holler and station . Oh yes , oh yeah , just let it out .
Speaker 3Mid run .
Speaker 2Just I mean how everything about our five K is about letting it out , yes , getting that energy out , yeah , it's like letting your shin shine . Yeah , we should have like a , a humping station . Oh , where there's . I was just being funny . Like like people can um , I don't know If you have your dog with you , they can hump something . Okay , Glad that was at the end of the episode . All right , guys , I love you .
Speaker 3I gotta start practicing my walking .
Speaker 1We love you guys . We'll see you next week .
Speaker 3Have a great week . Love you guys .
Speaker 2Bye , bye . Cat and Moose is a BP Production .
